GNU socialhttps://gs.jonkman.ca/api/statusnet/conversation/259033.atomConversation2024-03-28T06:45:40-04:00tag:social.systemreboot.net,2018-07-03:noticeId=421282:objectType=notearunisaac repeated a notice by dazinismRT @dazinism @maiki<br /> If you've not seen check out <a href="https://community.coops.tech/" title="https://community.coops.tech/" rel="nofollow noreferrer" class="attachment thumbnail">https://community.coops.tech/</a> @mike_hales @<a href="https://social.coop/users/mako" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Benjamin Mako Hill">mako</a> @hhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2018-07-03T12:28:07+00:002018-07-03T12:28:07+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.systemreboot.net/user/1arunisaacAmateur radio operator (VU3VJF) and electronics hobbyist, lisp/scheme programmer, politically left-leaning (maybe anarchistic), free software advocate, currently pursuing a PhD in Computational Science from the Indian Institute of Science.arunisaacarunisaacAmateur radio operator (VU3VJF) and electronics hobbyist, lisp/scheme programmer, politically left-leaning (maybe anarchistic), free software advocate, currently pursuing a PhD in Computational Science from the Indian Institute of Science.Bengaluru, Karnataka, Indiahomepagehttps://systemreboot.nettruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activityhttps://social.coop/users/dazinism/statuses/100297462665116160<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@maiki" class="u-url mention">@<span>maiki</span></a></span><br />If you've not seen check out <a href="https://community.coops.tech/" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span>community.coops.tech/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@h" class="u-url mention">@<span>h</span></a></span></p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-07-01T04:03:46+00:002018-07-01T04:03:46+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/dazinismdazinismfood, trees, land, tech and people collaborating to manage themdazinism𝒅𝒂𝒛𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒔𝒎food, trees, land, tech and people collaborating to manage themhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://social.coop/users/dazinism/statuses/100297462665116160New comment by dazinism<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@maiki" class="u-url mention">@<span>maiki</span></a></span><br />If you've not seen check out <a href="https://community.coops.tech/" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span>community.coops.tech/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@h" class="u-url mention">@<span>h</span></a></span></p>555278tag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationtag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://social.coop/users/dazinism/statuses/100297462665116160New comment by dazinism<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@maiki" class="u-url mention">@<span>maiki</span></a></span><br />If you've not seen check out <a href="https://community.coops.tech/" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span>community.coops.tech/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@h" class="u-url mention">@<span>h</span></a></span></p>555278http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-07-01T04:03:46+00:002018-07-01T04:03:46+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/dazinismdazinismfood, trees, land, tech and people collaborating to manage themdazinism𝒅𝒂𝒛𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒔𝒎food, trees, land, tech and people collaborating to manage themtag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationhttps://social.coop/users/mayel/statuses/100296099163157031/activitymayel repeated a notice by mako<p>RT <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> Cooperative management of shared infrastructure is path to "libre." A more libertarian approach is decentralization and federation around fixed (or cooperatively managed?) protocols which deemphasize the need for shared infrastructure in some way.</p><p>If we believe that effective cooperatives will be limited in scale or scope, a combination of the two may be necessary. This is more or less what we have here at social.coop which is part of a larger federated network.</p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2018-06-30T22:17:00+00:002018-06-30T22:17:00+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/mayelmayelMoved to @mayel@pub.mayel.space Posts from my main account are automatically boosted here.mayelMayel - ghost accountMoved to @mayel@pub.mayel.space Posts from my main account are automatically boosted here.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activityhttps://social.coop/users/mako/statuses/100296093124083064<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> Cooperative management of shared infrastructure is path to "libre." A more libertarian approach is decentralization and federation around fixed (or cooperatively managed?) protocols which deemphasize the need for shared infrastructure in some way.</p><p>If we believe that effective cooperatives will be limited in scale or scope, a combination of the two may be necessary. This is more or less what we have here at social.coop which is part of a larger federated network.</p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-06-30T22:15:29+00:002018-06-30T22:15:29+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/makomakoRebel with rather too many causes. https://mako.cc/makoBenjamin Mako HillRebel with rather too many causes. https://mako.cc/http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://social.coop/users/mako/statuses/100296093124083064New comment by mako<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> Cooperative management of shared infrastructure is path to "libre." A more libertarian approach is decentralization and federation around fixed (or cooperatively managed?) protocols which deemphasize the need for shared infrastructure in some way.</p><p>If we believe that effective cooperatives will be limited in scale or scope, a combination of the two may be necessary. This is more or less what we have here at social.coop which is part of a larger federated network.</p>552922tag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationtag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationhttps://social.coop/users/mayel/statuses/100296093619000137/activitymayel repeated a notice by mikehales<p>RT <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> Of course, when talking <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coops" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coops</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>tools</span></a> I'm thinking of social.coop too. If social.coop exists to cooperatively own and operate tool platforms (did I get that right?) . . what other tools than Mastodon will come under the umbrella? And which kinds of users will they be tools for? Tech nerds? Coders? Ordinary everday folks? P2P/solidarity economy activists? Etcetera. Diverse use cases, can't serve 'em all well?</p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2018-06-30T22:15:36+00:002018-06-30T22:15:36+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/mayelmayelMoved to @mayel@pub.mayel.space Posts from my main account are automatically boosted here.mayelMayel - ghost accountMoved to @mayel@pub.mayel.space Posts from my main account are automatically boosted here.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activityhttps://social.coop/users/mike_hales/statuses/100296060537073697<p>Of course, when talking <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coops" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coops</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>tools</span></a> I'm thinking of social.coop too. If social.coop exists to cooperatively own and operate tool platforms (did I get that right?) . . what other tools than Mastodon will come under the umbrella? And which kinds of users will they be tools for? Tech nerds? Coders? Ordinary everday folks? P2P/solidarity economy activists? Etcetera. Diverse use cases, can't serve 'em all well?</p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-06-30T22:07:11+00:002018-06-30T22:07:11+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/mike_halesmikehales#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobotmikehalesmike_hales 💔*!?¿*#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobothttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://social.coop/users/mike_hales/statuses/100296060537073697New comment by mikehales<p>Of course, when talking <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coops" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coops</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>tools</span></a> I'm thinking of social.coop too. If social.coop exists to cooperatively own and operate tool platforms (did I get that right?) . . what other tools than Mastodon will come under the umbrella? And which kinds of users will they be tools for? Tech nerds? Coders? Ordinary everday folks? P2P/solidarity economy activists? Etcetera. Diverse use cases, can't serve 'em all well?</p>552920tag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationtag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://social.coop/users/mako/statuses/100296093124083064New comment by mako<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> Cooperative management of shared infrastructure is path to "libre." A more libertarian approach is decentralization and federation around fixed (or cooperatively managed?) protocols which deemphasize the need for shared infrastructure in some way.</p><p>If we believe that effective cooperatives will be limited in scale or scope, a combination of the two may be necessary. This is more or less what we have here at social.coop which is part of a larger federated network.</p>552922http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-06-30T22:15:29+00:002018-06-30T22:15:29+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/makomakoRebel with rather too many causes. https://mako.cc/makoBenjamin Mako HillRebel with rather too many causes. https://mako.cc/tag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationhttps://social.coop/users/mayel/statuses/100296091375784735/activitymayel repeated a notice by mikehales<p>RT <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span> Puzzled . . <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RC</span><span class="invisible">Y&feature=youtu.be</span></a><br />And is very clear on <a href="https://social.coop/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>commons</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/p2p" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>P2P</span></a> (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/platforms" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>platforms</span></a> to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coop" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coop</span></a> follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?</p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2018-06-30T22:15:02+00:002018-06-30T22:15:02+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/mayelmayelMoved to @mayel@pub.mayel.space Posts from my main account are automatically boosted here.mayelMayel - ghost accountMoved to @mayel@pub.mayel.space Posts from my main account are automatically boosted here.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activityhttps://social.coop/users/mike_hales/statuses/100295941140114475<p>Puzzled . . <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RC</span><span class="invisible">Y&feature=youtu.be</span></a><br />And is very clear on <a href="https://social.coop/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>commons</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/p2p" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>P2P</span></a> (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/platforms" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>platforms</span></a> to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coop" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coop</span></a> follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?</p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-06-30T21:36:50+00:002018-06-30T21:36:50+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/mike_halesmikehales#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobotmikehalesmike_hales 💔*!?¿*#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobothttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notehttps://social.coop/users/mike_hales/statuses/100295941140114475New note by mikehales<p>Puzzled . . <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RC</span><span class="invisible">Y&feature=youtu.be</span></a><br />And is very clear on <a href="https://social.coop/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>commons</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/p2p" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>P2P</span></a> (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/platforms" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>platforms</span></a> to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coop" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coop</span></a> follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?</p>552917tag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationtag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://social.coop/users/mike_hales/statuses/100296060537073697New comment by mikehales<p>Of course, when talking <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coops" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coops</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>tools</span></a> I'm thinking of social.coop too. If social.coop exists to cooperatively own and operate tool platforms (did I get that right?) . . what other tools than Mastodon will come under the umbrella? And which kinds of users will they be tools for? Tech nerds? Coders? Ordinary everday folks? P2P/solidarity economy activists? Etcetera. Diverse use cases, can't serve 'em all well?</p>552920http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-06-30T22:07:11+00:002018-06-30T22:07:11+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/mike_halesmikehales#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobotmikehalesmike_hales 💔*!?¿*#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobottag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversationhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notehttps://social.coop/users/mike_hales/statuses/100295941140114475New note by mikehales<p>Puzzled . . <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@mako" class="u-url mention">@<span>mako</span></a></span> makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RC</span><span class="invisible">Y&feature=youtu.be</span></a><br />And is very clear on <a href="https://social.coop/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>commons</span></a> and <a href="https://social.coop/tags/p2p" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>P2P</span></a> (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/platforms" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>platforms</span></a> to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't <a href="https://social.coop/tags/coop" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>coop</span></a> follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?</p>552917http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2018-06-30T21:36:50+00:002018-06-30T21:36:50+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.coop/users/mike_halesmikehales#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobotmikehalesmike_hales 💔*!?¿*#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons #patternLanguage #nobottag:social.coop,2018-06-30:objectId=4575241:objectType=Conversation