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@Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> Correlation is not nothing, but neither (I think) are the arguments I made: the usefulness of majorities, the virtues of throwing parties out of power, and the incommensurability of voting bloc power with the number of votes for a party.<\/p> The essence of a parliamentary system is discussion; yes, the majority does often ignore the other parties in the short term, but they do have the right to speak. In the long term, voters reward parties who were right.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10226171:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10226171:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> Correlation is not nothing, but neither (I think) are the arguments I made: the usefulness of majorities, the virtues of throwing parties out of power, and the incommensurability of voting bloc power with the number of votes for a party.<\/p> The essence of a parliamentary system is discussion; yes, the majority does often ignore the other parties in the short term, but they do have the right to speak. In the long term, voters reward parties who were right.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81362","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10224256:objectType=Status","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81337"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695133","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-23T22:28:24+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81362"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. Gr\u00e9goire","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-original-20170909224838.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":120,"height":120},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-96-20171019231459.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-48-20180123145110.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-24-20180204124512.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"942"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-96-20171019231459.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/@mpjgregoire","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. Gr\u00e9goire","note":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al"}},"content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> I've always been told, and I believe it, that the average Canadian voter decides for whom to vote based on: So the fact roughly 60% of Ontarians voted for parties with left or centre-left policies does not convince me that the results of the 2018 election are somehow wrong.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10226048:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10226048:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> I've always been told, and I believe it, that the average Canadian voter decides for whom to vote based on: So the fact roughly 60% of Ontarians voted for parties with left or centre-left policies does not convince me that the results of the 2018 election are somehow wrong.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81360","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695136","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-23T22:17:49+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81360"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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Gr\u00e9goire","note":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al"}},"content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> I'm not sure we really want to argue about the Ontario PCs; but we can if you want.<\/p> In terms of the Ontario election, your claim is that the majority of Ontarians voted for left or centre-left *policies*. My claim is that Ontarians first decided they wanted to get rid of the Liberal government, then they hesitated between Ms. Horvath and Mr. Ford, and at last the anti-Liberals mostly chose the #onpc<\/span><\/a> , giving them the power to make major changes.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10225999:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10225999:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> I'm not sure we really want to argue about the Ontario PCs; but we can if you want.<\/p> In terms of the Ontario election, your claim is that the majority of Ontarians voted for left or centre-left *policies*. My claim is that Ontarians first decided they wanted to get rid of the Liberal government, then they hesitated between Ms. Horvath and Mr. Ford, and at last the anti-Liberals mostly chose the #onpc<\/span><\/a> , giving them the power to make major changes.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81359","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10224072:objectType=Status","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81335"},"tags":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"onpc"}]},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695137","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-23T22:12:08+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81359"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/user\/2","displayName":"Bob Jonkman","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/2-300-20170904114939.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":300,"height":300},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/2-96-20170904114939.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/2-48-20170904122929.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/2-24-20170904122929.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"2"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/2-96-20170904114939.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Computer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator\u2026\nVolunteer at Radio Waterloo\nCo-founder of http:\/\/kwvoip.ca\nGnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/BobJonkmanGreen","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/bobjonkman","followers":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/bobjonkman\/subscribers"},"portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"bobjonkman","displayName":"Bob Jonkman","note":"Computer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator\u2026\nVolunteer at Radio Waterloo\nCo-founder of http:\/\/kwvoip.ca\nGnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/BobJonkmanGreen","addresses":{"formatted":"Elmira, Ontario, Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/bob.jonkman.ca\/blogs","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"RT @modernindustrial<\/a> @mpjgregoire The PCs have been very clear about their plans: against the poor and working class, against inclusivity, against science, against the environment, exercisizing provincial power to spite enemies, and toward benefiting private interests over public while limiting public oversight. 60+% of Ontarians voted center-left or left (Liberal, NDP, or Green) - they did not want the PCs policies. FPTP failed to translate the people's will into policy. PR would.","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:api","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"api"}},"id":"tag:gs.jonkman.ca,2018-11-23:noticeId=693437:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10224072:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @mpjgregoire<\/span><\/a><\/span> The PCs have been very clear about their plans: against the poor and working class, against inclusivity, against science, against the environment, exercisizing provincial power to spite enemies, and toward benefiting private interests over public while limiting public oversight. 60+% of Ontarians voted center-left or left (Liberal, NDP, or Green) - they did not want the PCs policies. FPTP failed to translate the people's will into policy. PR would.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81335","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"693437","source":"api","repeat_of":"693428"}},"published":"2018-11-23T19:24:22+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"title":"bobjonkman repeated a notice by modernindustrial","verb":"share","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/notice\/693437"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial","displayName":"Modern Industrial","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-original-20171021155353.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":120,"height":120},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-96-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-48-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-24-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"3621"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-96-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":" Engineer\/father\/husband\/nerd into most things tech, science, and art. New Canadian\/US expat. There will be robots.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/@Modern_Industrial","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"modernindustrial","displayName":"Modern Industrial","note":" Engineer\/father\/husband\/nerd into most things tech, science, and art. New Canadian\/US expat. There will be robots.<\/p>"}},"content":" @mpjgregoire<\/span><\/a><\/span> There is a reasonable discussion about the direction of causality. The correlation behind quality of life and PR is still significant.<\/p> If the interest is truly seeing all sides of an issue, wouldn't a better approach be to have more diverse voices at the table? With FPTP, the majority can ride roughshod over any opposing views without consideration - discussion is moot to power. PR strongly leads toward more points of view being considered.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10224256:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10224256:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @mpjgregoire<\/span><\/a><\/span> There is a reasonable discussion about the direction of causality. The correlation behind quality of life and PR is still significant.<\/p> If the interest is truly seeing all sides of an issue, wouldn't a better approach be to have more diverse voices at the table? With FPTP, the majority can ride roughshod over any opposing views without consideration - discussion is moot to power. PR strongly leads toward more points of view being considered.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81337","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"693436","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-23T19:23:14+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81337"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial","displayName":"Modern Industrial","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-original-20171021155353.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":120,"height":120},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-96-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-48-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-24-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"3621"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-96-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":" Engineer\/father\/husband\/nerd into most things tech, science, and art. New Canadian\/US expat. There will be robots.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/@Modern_Industrial","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"modernindustrial","displayName":"Modern Industrial","note":" Engineer\/father\/husband\/nerd into most things tech, science, and art. New Canadian\/US expat. There will be robots.<\/p>"}},"content":" @mpjgregoire<\/span><\/a><\/span> The PCs have been very clear about their plans: against the poor and working class, against inclusivity, against science, against the environment, exercisizing provincial power to spite enemies, and toward benefiting private interests over public while limiting public oversight. 60+% of Ontarians voted center-left or left (Liberal, NDP, or Green) - they did not want the PCs policies. FPTP failed to translate the people's will into policy. PR would.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10224072:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-23:objectId=10224072:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @mpjgregoire<\/span><\/a><\/span> The PCs have been very clear about their plans: against the poor and working class, against inclusivity, against science, against the environment, exercisizing provincial power to spite enemies, and toward benefiting private interests over public while limiting public oversight. 60+% of Ontarians voted center-left or left (Liberal, NDP, or Green) - they did not want the PCs policies. FPTP failed to translate the people's will into policy. PR would.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81335","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"693428","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-23T19:09:20+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81335"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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Gr\u00e9goire","note":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al"}},"content":" @arjaybe<\/span><\/a><\/span> I'm not quibbling. I genuinely believe that the current BC electoral system is superior to any system of PR for the reasons I've stated.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-22:objectId=10213737:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-22:objectId=10213737:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @arjaybe<\/span><\/a><\/span> I'm not quibbling. I genuinely believe that the current BC electoral system is superior to any system of PR for the reasons I've stated.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81263","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/arjaybe"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695143","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-22T22:01:03+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81263"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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Gr\u00e9goire","note":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al"}},"content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> We don't know yet well how the Ontario PC party will govern; it will be hard going in any case given the awful fiscal policies of their predecessors. FPTP made it easy for Ontarians to throw out the Wynn government, and the PCs were the preferred choice of the anti-Liberal voters.<\/p> Why do you say the PCs are captured by private interests?<\/p> #onpol<\/span><\/a><\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-22:objectId=10213646:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-22:objectId=10213646:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> We don't know yet well how the Ontario PC party will govern; it will be hard going in any case given the awful fiscal policies of their predecessors. FPTP made it easy for Ontarians to throw out the Wynn government, and the PCs were the preferred choice of the anti-Liberal voters.<\/p> Why do you say the PCs are captured by private interests?<\/p> #onpol<\/span><\/a><\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81262","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"tags":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"onpol"}]},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695144","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-22T21:53:01+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81262"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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Even if PR is conducive to consensus, the BC government will not become Norwegian.<\/p> I also disagree that \"constantly squabbling\" is so bad; an adversarial approach is often the best way to see all sides of a complicated issue.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-22:objectId=10213553:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-22:objectId=10213553:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @Modern_Industrial<\/span><\/a><\/span> I think the countries you have in mind are \"socially progressive\" not because they have PR; they are socially progressive and they have PR because of the sort of societies they are (homogeneous, egalitarian, and consensus-oriented). Even if PR is conducive to consensus, the BC government will not become Norwegian.<\/p> I also disagree that \"constantly squabbling\" is so bad; an adversarial approach is often the best way to see all sides of a complicated issue.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81261","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10200534:objectType=Status","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81160"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695145","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-22T21:44:24+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81261"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial","displayName":"Modern Industrial","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-original-20171021155353.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":120,"height":120},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-96-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-48-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-24-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"3621"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/3621-96-20171105194141.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":" Engineer\/father\/husband\/nerd into most things tech, science, and art. New Canadian\/US expat. There will be robots.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/@Modern_Industrial","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"modernindustrial","displayName":"Modern Industrial","note":" Engineer\/father\/husband\/nerd into most things tech, science, and art. New Canadian\/US expat. There will be robots.<\/p>"}},"content":" @mpjgregoire<\/span><\/a><\/span> I really don't understand this line of thought. PR changes the dynamics of interparty behavior. Rather than constant squabbling, they have to work together to get things done. Countries using PR have the highest standards of living and the most socially progressive laws (including carbon taxes!). A majority government with minority votes captured by private interests (like ON gov) can do tremendous damage unchecked for years. PR strongly limits this.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10200534:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10200534:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" @mpjgregoire<\/span><\/a><\/span> I really don't understand this line of thought. PR changes the dynamics of interparty behavior. Rather than constant squabbling, they have to work together to get things done. Countries using PR have the highest standards of living and the most socially progressive laws (including carbon taxes!). A majority government with minority votes captured by private interests (like ON gov) can do tremendous damage unchecked for years. PR strongly limits this.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81160","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"691611","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-21T19:53:13+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/Modern_Industrial\/updates\/81160"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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Gr\u00e9goire","note":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al"}},"content":" Since #proportionalrepresentation<\/span><\/a> does necessarily result in a government that better reflects the public will (its purported advantage), and since it loses the useful features of easily creating and throwing out majority governments, it should be rejected.<\/p> Caveat: Governments depend on political culture as much as formal rules; changes to the system ought to be considered in a specific context, not on an a priori basis.<\/p> #bcpol<\/span><\/a><\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198421:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198421:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" Since #proportionalrepresentation<\/span><\/a> does necessarily result in a government that better reflects the public will (its purported advantage), and since it loses the useful features of easily creating and throwing out majority governments, it should be rejected.<\/p> Caveat: Governments depend on political culture as much as formal rules; changes to the system ought to be considered in a specific context, not on an a priori basis.<\/p> #bcpol<\/span><\/a><\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81137","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"tags":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"bcpol"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"proportionalrepresentation"}]},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695148","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-21T16:36:00+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81137"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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To the degree the parties maintain \"voting discipline\", they are all equal.<\/p> Since the right and the centre are the main rivals, and the right and the left would find it difficult to agree, the government is more likely to be centre-left, contrary to the public preference.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198317:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198317:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" But when you consider the voting coalition necessary to pass a law, any single elected party has a majority; any two parties could achieve a majority. To the degree the parties maintain \"voting discipline\", they are all equal.<\/p> Since the right and the centre are the main rivals, and the right and the left would find it difficult to agree, the government is more likely to be centre-left, contrary to the public preference.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81136","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695149","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-21T16:24:15+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81136"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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Proponents argue that assigning representatives proportionate to the vote will produce a government that better reflects the popular will; but it's not so simple.<\/p> Proportional representation is not the same as proportional government.<\/p> Consider a vote that is 49% for the party of the right, 49% for the party of the centre, and 2% for the part of the left. The public preference (to the degree there is such a thing) would be for a centre-right government.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81134","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695150","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-21T16:19:51+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81134"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. 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Gr\u00e9goire","note":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al"}},"content":" 1. Yes, FPTP gives a majority of the legislature to parties receiving only a plurality of the vote (typically ~40%). That is a strength of the existing system. A majority allows governments to enact big decisions (e.g., a carbon tax). But it is also easy for a 10% shift of votes to oust a party from government, so parties use that power carefully. In Canada, parties typically hold a majority for about eight years and then are replaced by their opponents; that is healthy.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198166:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198166:objectType=Status","objectType":"comment","content":" 1. Yes, FPTP gives a majority of the legislature to parties receiving only a plurality of the vote (typically ~40%). That is a strength of the existing system. A majority allows governments to enact big decisions (e.g., a carbon tax). But it is also easy for a 10% shift of votes to oust a party from government, so parties use that power carefully. In Canada, parties typically hold a majority for about eight years and then are replaced by their opponents; that is healthy.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81131","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=8470016:objectType=Conversation","notice_info":{"local_id":"695152","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2018-11-21T16:07:00+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire\/updates\/81131"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/users\/mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. Gr\u00e9goire","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-original-20170909224838.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":120,"height":120},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-96-20171019231459.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-48-20180123145110.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-24-20180204124512.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"942"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/942-96-20171019231459.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.club\/@mpjgregoire","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"mpjgregoire","displayName":"M. Gr\u00e9goire","note":"Compte primaire\/primary account:\nhttps:\/\/mamot.fr\/@mpjgregoire\n\n#canpol #qcpol #engineering #g\u00e9nie #montr\u00e9al"}},"content":" I oppose #proportionalrepresentation<\/span><\/a> .<\/p> Proponents claim many advantages, which largely depend on the variant used; I could criticise them one by one. (e.g., PR elects more women! But closed-list PR makes MLAs responsible to their parties not constituents!)<\/p> Let me instead address two general problems.<\/p> #bcpol<\/span><\/a><\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198100:objectType=Status","object":{"id":"tag:mastodon.club,2018-11-21:objectId=10198100:objectType=Status","objectType":"note","content":"
1. The leader
2. The party
3. Policies
(from most important to least)<\/p>
1. The leader
2. The party
3. Policies
(from most important to least)<\/p>