Flawesome. GNU\/Linux is my daily driver OS since 1995. On Fedi since 2008. Working in Racket, Tcl, Python, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. A dad. Freddie Mercury is my spiritual advisor.<\/p>
web.archive.org\/web\/1\/pronoun.\u2026<\/a><\/p> Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement unless I say otherwise. Fire away. If I don't a \u2026 ","url":"https:\/\/libranet.de\/profile\/clacke","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"clacke","displayName":"clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy \ud83c\uddf8\ud83c\uddea\ud83c\udded\ud83c\uddf0\ud83d\udc99\ud83d\udc9b","note":" Flawesome. GNU\/Linux is my daily driver OS since 1995. On Fedi since 2008. Working in Racket, Tcl, Python, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. A dad. Freddie Mercury is my spiritual advisor.<\/p> web.archive.org\/web\/1\/pronoun.\u2026<\/a><\/p> Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement unless I say otherwise. Fire away. If I don't a \u2026 "}},"content":"@Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]<\/span><\/a><\/span> Yes, it's an update to the same blog post.
The cause for dropping the app was abusive content on the matrix.org flagship server itself, and it had already been moderated out of existence before Google told Element about it.
The app was suspended for 27 hours for no good reason at all, for no conspiratorial reason at all, and channels have been established for preventing it from happening again.","generator":{"id":"tag:gs.jonkman.ca,2024-03-29:notice-source:share","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"share"}},"id":"https:\/\/libranet.de\/objects\/0b6b25a8-2160-1618-8df3-c8a786845642","object":{"id":"https:\/\/libranet.de\/objects\/0b6b25a8-2160-1618-8df3-c8a786845642","objectType":"note","content":"@Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]<\/span><\/a><\/span> Yes, it's an update to the same blog post.
The cause for dropping the app was abusive content on the matrix.org flagship server itself, and it had already been moderated out of existence before Google told Element about it.
The app was suspended for 27 hours for no good reason at all, for no conspiratorial reason at all, and channels have been established for preventing it from happening again.","url":"https:\/\/libranet.de\/display\/0b6b25a8-2160-1618-8df3-c8a786845642","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-31:noticeId=3356398:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356398"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:objectType=thread:nonce=8a5897d1e4649db8","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2520083","notice_info":{"local_id":"1058353","source":"share"}},"published":"2021-01-31T02:40:14+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/libranet.de\/display\/0b6b25a8-2160-1618-8df3-c8a786845642"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/2","displayName":"LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-original-20240320174239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-original-20240320174239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-48-20240320174437.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-24-20240320174437.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"57"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-original-20240320174239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main account. 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I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .","addresses":{"formatted":"{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}"}}},"content":"According to @clacke<\/a>, #Element<\/a><\/span> is back. https:\/\/libranet.de\/display\/0b6b25a8-1160-1615-cac7-aa0667972778<\/a> https:\/\/element.io\/blog\/element-on-google-play-store\/<\/a>","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-31:noticeId=3356398:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-31:noticeId=3356398:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"According to @clacke<\/a>, #Element<\/a><\/span> is back. https:\/\/libranet.de\/display\/0b6b25a8-1160-1615-cac7-aa0667972778<\/a> https:\/\/element.io\/blog\/element-on-google-play-store\/<\/a>","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356398","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:noticeId=3356361:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356361"},"tags":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"element"}]},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/libranet.de\/profile\/clacke"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:objectType=thread:nonce=8a5897d1e4649db8","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2520083","notice_info":{"local_id":"1058348","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-01-31T02:31:26+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356398"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/2","displayName":"LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-original-20240320174239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-original-20240320174239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-48-20240320174437.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-24-20240320174437.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"57"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/57-original-20240320174239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/lnxw48a1","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lnxw48a1","displayName":"LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}","note":"Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .","addresses":{"formatted":"{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}"}}},"content":"@geniusmusing<\/a> Yeah. :-(
I think the #blockwars<\/a><\/span> folks may have indirectly caused this. There are people who file complaints against client apps that don\u2019t build in blocklists against specific servers whose moderation policies they dislike.
I think that #Matrix<\/a><\/span> \/ #Element<\/a><\/span> competes with one or more Google-owned chat-type services. Since they gatekeep the overwhelming majority of Android users\u2019 software installation, a good antitrust lawyer would be helpful. I\u2019ll bet that faxing a bunch of documents to #USDOJ<\/a><\/span> and various states would suddenly cause Google to decide that Element doesn\u2019t violate their policies anyway.
(Someone said it was \u201cBoomers at Google that don\u2019t understand federation\u201d, but first of all, I\u2019m certain that most GOOG employees are far younger than you and I, and secondly, I\u2019m sure someone at Google understands federation, though they obviously dislike not being in control. Google Talk was federated with #XMPP<\/a><\/span>, while Google Plus was basically #Diaspora<\/a><\/span> with federation stripped out.)","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:noticeId=3356363:objectType=comment","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:noticeId=3356363:objectType=comment","objectType":"comment","content":"@geniusmusing<\/a> Yeah. :-(
I think the #blockwars<\/a><\/span> folks may have indirectly caused this. There are people who file complaints against client apps that don\u2019t build in blocklists against specific servers whose moderation policies they dislike.
I think that #Matrix<\/a><\/span> \/ #Element<\/a><\/span> competes with one or more Google-owned chat-type services. Since they gatekeep the overwhelming majority of Android users\u2019 software installation, a good antitrust lawyer would be helpful. I\u2019ll bet that faxing a bunch of documents to #USDOJ<\/a><\/span> and various states would suddenly cause Google to decide that Element doesn\u2019t violate their policies anyway.
(Someone said it was \u201cBoomers at Google that don\u2019t understand federation\u201d, but first of all, I\u2019m certain that most GOOG employees are far younger than you and I, and secondly, I\u2019m sure someone at Google understands federation, though they obviously dislike not being in control. Google Talk was federated with #XMPP<\/a><\/span>, while Google Plus was basically #Diaspora<\/a><\/span> with federation stripped out.)","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356363","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:noticeId=3356361:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356361"},"tags":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"blockwars"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"diaspora"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"element"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"matrix"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"usdoj"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"xmpp"}]},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:objectType=thread:nonce=8a5897d1e4649db8","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2520083","notice_info":{"local_id":"1058314","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-01-30T21:34:32+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356363"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16","displayName":"GeniusMusing","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-48-20231022234715.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-24-20231023021239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"5773"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/geniusmusing","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"geniusmusing","displayName":"GeniusMusing","note":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","addresses":{"formatted":"Pacific Northwest"}}},"content":"Element suspended on Google Play Store
https:\/\/element.io\/blog\/element-on-google-play-store\/<\/a>
>Hi all,
>
>At 2021-01-29 at 21:35 UTC Google suspended Element from the Play Store without warning or notification. We submitted an appeal asking for clarification at 23:18, and at 05:31 received a generic update from the Google Play Policy team citing that the app has been removed due to content which contravenes their terms of use, and asking us to \u201cmake the necessary changes to [our] app\u201d and \u201cupload a new app using a new package name and a new app name\u201d.
>
>As of 11:44 UTC we\u2019ve submitted a detailed appeal to reiterate that Element is a generic chat app for connecting to the global Matrix communication network, just as Chrome is a generic web browser for connecting to the Web - and just as Google does not control the content on the Web, Element does not control the content on Matrix.
>
>We have also explained that the Matrix servers that we do run as Element (including the default Matrix.org homeserver, which we run on behalf of The Matrix.org Foundation) have strict Terms of Use which we actively enforce. We abhor abuse, and Element is not an app that caters to abusive content.
snip
>We\u2019re currently waiting for an update to Google and will keep this blog post updated as the situation develops. We look forward to resolving the problem and getting the app back in the store shortly.
>
>-- The Element Team
>
>Update: reminder that in the interim you can download a (slightly outdated) version of Element Android from F-Droid at https:\/\/f-droid.org\/en\/packages\/im.vector.app<\/a>. We're also looking into running our own F-Droid repository going forwards so the most recent build is always available there.","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:noticeId=3356361:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:noticeId=3356361:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"Element suspended on Google Play Store
https:\/\/element.io\/blog\/element-on-google-play-store\/<\/a>
>Hi all,
>
>At 2021-01-29 at 21:35 UTC Google suspended Element from the Play Store without warning or notification. We submitted an appeal asking for clarification at 23:18, and at 05:31 received a generic update from the Google Play Policy team citing that the app has been removed due to content which contravenes their terms of use, and asking us to \u201cmake the necessary changes to [our] app\u201d and \u201cupload a new app using a new package name and a new app name\u201d.
>
>As of 11:44 UTC we\u2019ve submitted a detailed appeal to reiterate that Element is a generic chat app for connecting to the global Matrix communication network, just as Chrome is a generic web browser for connecting to the Web - and just as Google does not control the content on the Web, Element does not control the content on Matrix.
>
>We have also explained that the Matrix servers that we do run as Element (including the default Matrix.org homeserver, which we run on behalf of The Matrix.org Foundation) have strict Terms of Use which we actively enforce. We abhor abuse, and Element is not an app that caters to abusive content.
snip
>We\u2019re currently waiting for an update to Google and will keep this blog post updated as the situation develops. We look forward to resolving the problem and getting the app back in the store shortly.
>
>-- The Element Team
>
>Update: reminder that in the interim you can download a (slightly outdated) version of Element Android from F-Droid at https:\/\/f-droid.org\/en\/packages\/im.vector.app<\/a>. We're also looking into running our own F-Droid repository going forwards so the most recent build is always available there.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356361","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-01-30:objectType=thread:nonce=8a5897d1e4649db8","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2520083","notice_info":{"local_id":"1058311","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-01-30T20:53:43+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3356361"}],"links":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/conversation\/534664","rel":"alternate","type":"text\/html"}]}