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Users reasonably want end-to-end encryption (E2EE), but still want some basic usability.
(The experience back in the GNU #Ring<\/a><\/span> days was pretty bad. Even today, none of my contacts will reconsider it.)","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=3376742:objectType=comment","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=3376742:objectType=comment","objectType":"comment","content":"@geniusmusing<\/a> @lxo<\/a> This is important. #GNU<\/a><\/span> #Jami<\/a><\/span> used to only send when both parties were online simultaneously. If the parties in the conversation are in different timezones, that may not happen often.
Users reasonably want end-to-end encryption (E2EE), but still want some basic usability.
(The experience back in the GNU #Ring<\/a><\/span> days was pretty bad. Even today, none of my contacts will reconsider it.)","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376742","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=3376686:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376686"},"tags":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"gnu"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"jami"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/object\/hashtag","displayName":"ring"}]},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/index.php\/user\/157720"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:objectType=thread:nonce=374c99faff6d5177","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2531498","notice_info":{"local_id":"1079228","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-08-22T18:09:44+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376742"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16","displayName":"GeniusMusing","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-48-20231022234715.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-24-20231023021239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"5773"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/geniusmusing","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"geniusmusing","displayName":"GeniusMusing","note":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","addresses":{"formatted":"Pacific Northwest"}}},"content":"@lxo<\/a> @lnxw48a1<\/a>
I need to think on this for a little bit, it might mesh with an idea I had about 5 years ago. I do think, as you pointed out, that some sort of \"storage server\" will be needed even if local to the user because there will have to be some sort of TTL otherwise unless either the sender or receiver of message clear the data it will just fill up space forever. How long of a TTL will be a challenging discussion.","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=3376686:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=3376686:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"@lxo<\/a> @lnxw48a1<\/a>
I need to think on this for a little bit, it might mesh with an idea I had about 5 years ago. I do think, as you pointed out, that some sort of \"storage server\" will be needed even if local to the user because there will have to be some sort of TTL otherwise unless either the sender or receiver of message clear the data it will just fill up space forever. How long of a TTL will be a challenging discussion.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376686","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=9887292:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/notice\/9887292"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/2"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/index.php\/user\/157720"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:objectType=thread:nonce=374c99faff6d5177","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2531498","notice_info":{"local_id":"1079175","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-08-22T13:59:38+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376686"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/index.php\/user\/157720","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/25805-original-20211226170717.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/25805-original-20211226170717.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/25805-48-20211226171037.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/25805-24-20211226173856.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"25805"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/25805-original-20211226170717.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Free Software, GNU, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Free Software, GNU, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore","addresses":{"formatted":"Campinas, SP, Brazil"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"https:\/\/www.fsfla.org\/~lxoliva\/","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"I've long had an eye on GNUnet, indeed.
It may very well be an existing implementation of the P2P storage infrastructure I propose for networked services, instead of client\/server architectures. It has certainly been a significant source of inspiration. What I don't know is how suitable it is as a component to be bundled with networked apps, enabling secure use of networked storage, contributing to the shared networked storage pool, generating keys and associating them with users across devices, identifying users and groups for storage use accounting, for garbage collection, ... I plan a followup article or more for more detailed views","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=9887292:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-22:noticeId=9887292:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"I've long had an eye on GNUnet, indeed.
It may very well be an existing implementation of the P2P storage infrastructure I propose for networked services, instead of client\/server architectures. It has certainly been a significant source of inspiration. What I don't know is how suitable it is as a component to be bundled with networked apps, enabling secure use of networked storage, contributing to the shared networked storage pool, generating keys and associating them with users across devices, identifying users and groups for storage use accounting, for garbage collection, ... 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Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/geniusmusing","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"geniusmusing","displayName":"GeniusMusing","note":"AKA Wile E. 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personally, I've been thinking of P2P encrypted and distributed storage, and local apps holding keys to access the distributed storage. I have to finish the article about the general plan and publish it. want to take a peek?","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=9876537:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=9876537:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"as of a year or two ago, I'd tell you to install twister to see for yourself. nowadays, I point people at GNU Jami as one way to go about it. ssb is another approach.
personally, I've been thinking of P2P encrypted and distributed storage, and local apps holding keys to access the distributed storage. I have to finish the article about the general plan and publish it. want to take a peek?","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/notice\/9876537","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376396:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376396"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:objectType=thread:nonce=374c99faff6d5177","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2531498","notice_info":{"local_id":"1078945","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-08-19T22:57:41+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/notice\/9876537"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16","displayName":"GeniusMusing","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-48-20231022234715.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-24-20231023021239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"5773"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/geniusmusing","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"geniusmusing","displayName":"GeniusMusing","note":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","addresses":{"formatted":"Pacific Northwest"}}},"content":"@lnxw48a1<\/a>
#TIL<\/a><\/span>
DHT != Dihydrotestosterone
DHT == Distributed hash table","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376403:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376403:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"@lnxw48a1<\/a>
#TIL<\/a><\/span>
DHT != Dihydrotestosterone
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The true answer from my perspective is that this is a field for exploration and no one knows what may be ahead.","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376397:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376397:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"There are some P2P schemes in which there are servers to provide temporary storage, so that could be a partial answer. Or something using a DHT as temporary storage.
The true answer from my perspective is that this is a field for exploration and no one knows what may be ahead.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376397","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376396:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376396"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:objectType=thread:nonce=374c99faff6d5177","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2531498","notice_info":{"local_id":"1078932","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-08-19T20:17:32+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376397"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/16","displayName":"GeniusMusing","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-48-20231022234715.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-24-20231023021239.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"5773"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/avatar\/5773-original-20231022234617.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/geniusmusing","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"geniusmusing","displayName":"GeniusMusing","note":"AKA Wile E. Coyote, Inventor, Maker, Programmer, Writer and Super Genius.","addresses":{"formatted":"Pacific Northwest"}}},"content":"@lnxw48a1<\/a> @lxo<\/a>
Just to play devils advocate here, not to say your thoughts are not valid, how would this work?
During my day I typically use three devices, my phone, a desktop computer and a notebook. If there is no server involved and I am in communication with someone on my phone and then go to my desktop computer, how does the message history\/conversation move?
Same for my notebook that only gets turned on in the evening?
What about messages that I might receive when all are off?","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376396:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376396:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"@lnxw48a1<\/a> @lxo<\/a>
Just to play devils advocate here, not to say your thoughts are not valid, how would this work?
During my day I typically use three devices, my phone, a desktop computer and a notebook. If there is no server involved and I am in communication with someone on my phone and then go to my desktop computer, how does the message history\/conversation move?
Same for my notebook that only gets turned on in the evening?
What about messages that I might receive when all are off?","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376396","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=9875626:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/notice\/9875626"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/2"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/index.php\/user\/157720"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:objectType=thread:nonce=374c99faff6d5177","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2531498","notice_info":{"local_id":"1078931","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-08-19T20:11:26+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman 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FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Free Software, GNU, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore","addresses":{"formatted":"Campinas, SP, Brazil"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"https:\/\/www.fsfla.org\/~lxoliva\/","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"that's why I favor P2P over federated. people don't generally wish to install and maintain servers. we have to remove the distinction between client and server for distributed networks to thrive in a truly decentralized way, instead of having them tend to recentralization because of the economies of server maintenance","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=9875626:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=9875626:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"that's why I favor P2P over federated. people don't generally wish to install and maintain servers. we have to remove the distinction between client and server for distributed networks to thrive in a truly decentralized way, instead of having them tend to recentralization because of the economies of server maintenance","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.net\/notice\/9875626","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376343:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376343"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/user\/2"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:objectType=thread:nonce=374c99faff6d5177","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2531498","notice_info":{"local_id":"1078907","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-08-19T18:22:54+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman 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Looking at how many Pump.io instances and associated services are gone.
Looks like there are exactly two instances with open registration (Identi.ca is closed for registration).
Considering that this page began in 2017 with an effort to disperse E14N Pump instances among the community, it is really sad to see how badly that effort failed.","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376343:objectType=note","object":{"id":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:noticeId=3376343:objectType=note","objectType":"note","content":"https:\/\/github.com\/pump-io\/pump.io\/wiki\/Community<\/a>
Looking at how many Pump.io instances and associated services are gone.
Looks like there are exactly two instances with open registration (Identi.ca is closed for registration).
Considering that this page began in 2017 with an effort to disperse E14N Pump instances among the community, it is really sad to see how badly that effort failed.","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376343","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:nu.federati.net,2021-08-19:objectType=thread:nonce=374c99faff6d5177","conversation_url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/conversation\/2531498","notice_info":{"local_id":"1078875","source":"ostatus"}},"published":"2021-08-19T15:34:12+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Jonkman Microblog","url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/nu.federati.net\/notice\/3376343"}],"links":[{"url":"https:\/\/gs.jonkman.ca\/conversation\/548035","rel":"alternate","type":"text\/html"}]}