Updates tagged with activitypub on Jonkman Microblog!
bobjonkman: Darn. Really have to upgrade this instance to #ActivityPub
bobjonkman's status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 14:39:02 EST
Darn. Really have to upgrade this instance to #ActivityPub
lnxw48a1: https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub [www theverge com] The Verge article extolling the #Fediverse. I personally think the writer has the wrong point. #Facebook isn't good. Its attraction is "everybody I know is on Facebook" and not any of its half-baked features. Therefore, multiprotocol / multi-network federated social is important to dethroning #corpocentric #socnets like XTwitter ( #x.com / #twitter ) and Meta's Facebook & #Instagram. We need bridges to connect #Nostr, the #OStatus and #ActivityPub fediverses, #Diaspora, #Farcaster, #Bluesky's #ATProto, etc. Or we need instances that speak all of the above protocols / languages. I feel this writer's exuberence will turn out to be fantasy, mostly because of misunderstanding what keeps people in the walled gardens and what it will take to free them.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 22:09:16 EST
https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub [www theverge com] The Verge article extolling the #Fediverse. I personally think the writer has the wrong point. #Facebook isn't good. Its attraction is "everybody I know is on Facebook" and not any of its half-baked features. Therefore, multiprotocol / multi-network federated social is important to dethroning #corpocentric #socnets like XTwitter ( #x.com / #twitter ) and Meta's Facebook & #Instagram. We need bridges to connect #Nostr, the #OStatus and #ActivityPub fediverses, #Diaspora, #Farcaster, #Bluesky's #ATProto, etc. Or we need instances that speak all of the above protocols / languages. I feel this writer's exuberence will turn out to be fantasy, mostly because of misunderstanding what keeps people in the walled gardens and what it will take to free them.
2023 in social media: the case for the fediverse
fu: Anyone know a good way to find people who would be interested in being #paid to #develop a, likely #unpopular, #FreeSoftware app, that is beyond my own skill. I want something that will allow me to access an #ActivityPub feed via email. I can send an email to post new, send a different email to receive a reply that includes recent posts from my friends. Possibly wider scope after initial release. #paidGig #$$$ #softwareDev #dev #Engineering #fediverse #GNU #Linux #OpenSource #git #TootyMail I want to pay you to develop a Free Software app https://kill-the-newsletter.com/alternates/5zswll8os1l51imm.html
fu's status on Monday, 13-Nov-2023 12:37:47 EST
Anyone know a good way to find people who would be interested in being #paid to #develop a, likely #unpopular, #FreeSoftware app, that is beyond my own skill. I want something that will allow me to access an #ActivityPub feed via email. I can send an email to post new, send a different email to receive a reply that includes recent posts from my friends. Possibly wider scope after initial release. #paidGig #$$$ #softwareDev #dev #Engineering #fediverse #GNU #Linux #OpenSource #git #TootyMail I want to pay you to develop a Free Software app https://kill-the-newsletter.com/alternates/5zswll8os1l51imm.html
fu: @Evan Prodromou I follow several people on identi.ca from my #Friendica account, some time ago the pump.io plugin quit working. Once you turn #ActivityPub on do you think I'll automatically get all their status updates again?
fu's status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 14:44:38 EDT
@Evan Prodromou I follow several people on identi.ca from my #Friendica account, some time ago the pump.io plugin quit working. Once you turn #ActivityPub on do you think I'll automatically get all their status updates again?
lnxw48a1: The Iris #Nostr client on #Android now has a "block and mute" function, so I've started using that against the #spambots. Nostr has some great ideas that are way beyond what either #OStatus or #ActivityPub branches of the #Fediverse are doing, but the spam and the fact that there's a really big #Bitcoin "Maxi" faction there are chasing regular people away.
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 13:47:16 EDT
The Iris #Nostr client on #Android now has a "block and mute" function, so I've started using that against the #spambots. Nostr has some great ideas that are way beyond what either #OStatus or #ActivityPub branches of the #Fediverse are doing, but the spam and the fact that there's a really big #Bitcoin "Maxi" faction there are chasing regular people away.
heluecht: Eben kam im Radio (Deutschlandfunk Nova) ein Beitrag zum #Fediverse. Es wurde die mögliche Problematik beschrieben, was passieren könnte, wenn Meta #ActivityPub unterstützt und weiterentwickelt. Der Beitrag war richtig gut recherchiert und ausgewogen.
heluecht's status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 04:19:56 EDT
Eben kam im Radio (Deutschlandfunk Nova) ein Beitrag zum #Fediverse. Es wurde die mögliche Problematik beschrieben, was passieren könnte, wenn Meta #ActivityPub unterstützt und weiterentwickelt. Der Beitrag war richtig gut recherchiert und ausgewogen.
lnxw48a1: https://beach.city/@vantablack/110563155848847142 #Meta / #Facebook is building a #Twitter clone under their #Instagram brand. Apparently, there's discussion of various #ActivityPub #Fediverse projects' lead developers signing an NDA and having discussions with them. The participants appear to be deleting evidence. I'm not spinning a conspiracy theory. I just don't think Gargron or Dansup have any idea what kinds of restrictions an NDA can contain. They risk long-term damage to their projects and some impact on their careers.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 18-Jun-2023 16:08:53 EDT
https://beach.city/@vantablack/110563155848847142 #Meta / #Facebook is building a #Twitter clone under their #Instagram brand. Apparently, there's discussion of various #ActivityPub #Fediverse projects' lead developers signing an NDA and having discussions with them. The participants appear to be deleting evidence. I'm not spinning a conspiracy theory. I just don't think Gargron or Dansup have any idea what kinds of restrictions an NDA can contain. They risk long-term damage to their projects and some impact on their careers.
fu: This sounds awesome 😎 but I'm getting perement failure :-\ #gemini #fediverse #activityPubgemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/tootik.gmi
fu's status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 00:16:07 EDT
This sounds awesome 😎 but I'm getting perement failure :-\ #gemini #fediverse #activityPub gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/tootik.gmi
fu: What's even more amazing is the comment from @Evan Prodromou that they are Integrating #ActivityPub into #identica What's old is new again. ♲ @mlinksva@mastodon.social: According to identi.ca/evan/note/6EZ4Jzp5RQ… 15 years and 2 days ago @evan wrote "This is my first post."I recall feeling excited at the time. Go Evan! Always.
fu's status on Tuesday, 30-May-2023 16:08:51 EDT
What's even more amazing is the comment from @Evan Prodromou that they are Integrating #ActivityPub into #identica What's old is new again. ♲ @mlinksva@mastodon.social: According to identi.ca/evan/note/6EZ4Jzp5RQ… 15 years and 2 days ago @evan wrote "This is my first post." I recall feeling excited at the time. Go Evan! Always.
lnxw48a1: @fu I think he's aware of the #Nostr - #ActivityPub bridge ... though #SPC blocks it for good reasons. He's a contact of mine on Nostr.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 13:37:25 EDT
@fu I think he's aware of the #Nostr - #ActivityPub bridge ... though #SPC blocks it for good reasons. He's a contact of mine on Nostr.
lnxw48a1: I did a #Mumble voice chat this evening with @a@pl.nulled.red. However, the connection here is exceptionally slow, so my client's connection kept timing out every few minutes. This happened on two different servers. Finally, we ended the voicechat. Afterwards, I did a test connection to the #Federati #Murmur / Mumble server. It disconnected once over a ten minute test. So if I do another #Office_Hours voicechat soon, understand that my connection may be interrupted. Anyway, I got some great ideas. A has been trying to document #ActivityPub itself (S2S and C2S designs), various implementations (including the Mastodon API that is often used instead of AP_C2S), as well as other #federated communication protocols such as #Matrix and #XMPP. They suggested that "a better Matrix" might be able to be built atop AP. I used to watch their game streams years ago, but the voice sounded different over Mumble. I'm told that getting a better microphone made the difference.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 01:19:58 EDT
I did a #Mumble voice chat this evening with @a@pl.nulled.red. However, the connection here is exceptionally slow, so my client's connection kept timing out every few minutes. This happened on two different servers. Finally, we ended the voicechat. Afterwards, I did a test connection to the #Federati #Murmur / Mumble server. It disconnected once over a ten minute test. So if I do another #Office_Hours voicechat soon, understand that my connection may be interrupted. Anyway, I got some great ideas. A has been trying to document #ActivityPub itself (S2S and C2S designs), various implementations (including the Mastodon API that is often used instead of AP_C2S), as well as other #federated communication protocols such as #Matrix and #XMPP. They suggested that "a better Matrix" might be able to be built atop AP. I used to watch their game streams years ago, but the voice sounded different over Mumble. I'm told that getting a better microphone made the difference.
lnxw48a1: Mostr: a bridge between #Nostr and the ( #ActivityPub ) #Fediverse https://gleasonator.com/objects/e6e981ad-5e27-4fbe-bb35-c8a53fbdcab3 Blog post: https://soapbox.pub/blog/mostr-fediverse-nostr-bridge/ Source: https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/mostr
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 21:12:32 EST
Mostr: a bridge between #Nostr and the ( #ActivityPub ) #Fediverse https://gleasonator.com/objects/e6e981ad-5e27-4fbe-bb35-c8a53fbdcab3 Blog post: https://soapbox.pub/blog/mostr-fediverse-nostr-bridge/ Source: https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/mostr
Introducing Mostr: a Fediverse Nostr bridge | Soapbox
fu: Meta: Fediverse Yes #itWorksLikeEmail but still I really don't understand how #friendica works. For example on this thread libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1… the original post was sent to 103 remote servers, my friend digit@iviv.hu commented on it. My response to his comment was sent to 24 servers, but my response to my own comment was sent to 105 servers. I suspect him being on Diaspora* and most of my contacts being on platforms like #Mastodon than only support #ActivityPub has an influence here. If I try to reference the same post from my Masto account, I thought it would look super weird, like I was talking to myself in a way that didn't make any sense, but I actually only see the OP https://hostux.social/@fu@libranet.de/109835482564374801 https://hostux.social/%C2%ABblock-4359556512123479765-0%C2%BB while when I search for my later comment I see it libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-2… and the comment of my own I was replying to, but not the OP !Friendica Support
fu's status on Thursday, 23-Feb-2023 19:48:26 EST
Meta: Fediverse Yes #itWorksLikeEmail but still I really don't understand how #friendica works. For example on this thread libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1… the original post was sent to 103 remote servers, my friend digit@iviv.hu commented on it. My response to his comment was sent to 24 servers, but my response to my own comment was sent to 105 servers. I suspect him being on Diaspora* and most of my contacts being on platforms like #Mastodon than only support #ActivityPub has an influence here. If I try to reference the same post from my Masto account, I thought it would look super weird, like I was talking to myself in a way that didn't make any sense, but I actually only see the OP https://hostux.social/@fu@libranet.de/109835482564374801 https://hostux.social/%C2%ABblock-4359556512123479765-0%C2%BB while when I search for my later comment I see it libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-2… and the comment of my own I was replying to, but not the OP !Friendica Support
tobias: Thank you to the developer community of #Friendica @Friendica Developers for keeping up their work on the project!, especially @Michael Vogel @Hypolite Petovan @Fabio and @Philipp Holzer https://ilovefs.org And thank you @mike for funding the project and all the work you put into it. Thank you @Evan Prodromou for identi.ca and your work with @Christine Lemmer-Webber and many others on #activitypub #ilovefs
tobias's status on Tuesday, 14-Feb-2023 05:56:05 EST
Thank you to the developer community of #Friendica @Friendica Developers for keeping up their work on the project!, especially @Michael Vogel @Hypolite Petovan @Fabio and @Philipp Holzer https://ilovefs.org And thank you @mike for funding the project and all the work you put into it. Thank you @Evan Prodromou for identi.ca and your work with @Christine Lemmer-Webber and many others on #activitypub #ilovefs
lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 21:20:57 EST
https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
Mastodon Brought a Protocol to a Product Fight
bobjonkman: @clacke@libranet.de Our #KWNPSA user group chatted with the #GetTogether developer a few months ago. He said demand for self-hosted G2G instances was minimal, and event interchange even more minimal. So #ActivityPub support on G2G has stalled, and he considers G2G more or less stable and mature.
bobjonkman's status on Tuesday, 29-Nov-2022 12:12:46 EST
@clacke Our #KWNPSA user group chatted with the #GetTogether developer a few months ago. He said demand for self-hosted G2G instances was minimal, and event interchange even more minimal. So #ActivityPub support on G2G has stalled, and he considers G2G more or less stable and mature.
lnxw48a1: Libervia / Salut a Toi project is working on a protocol bridge, so that !xmpp based #socnets and #ActivityPub + #HTTP based social networks can interact. See https://goffi.org/_ap/item/goffi%40goffi.org/libervia-progress-note-2022-w45-MTdL
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 27-Nov-2022 12:55:07 EST
Libervia / Salut a Toi project is working on a protocol bridge, so that !xmpp based #socnets and #ActivityPub + #HTTP based social networks can interact. See https://goffi.org/_ap/item/goffi%40goffi.org/libervia-progress-note-2022-w45-MTdL
lnxw48a1: #Pjuu ( #OtterSite ) starts planning a rewrite that adds #federation ( probably only #ActivityPub ). Looking to become an alternative to #Mastodon and #Pleroma, while still joining the #Fediverse. https://pjuu.com/joe/5b0383de620211edba040242ac140002 [pjuu com]
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 14-Nov-2022 15:23:02 EST
#Pjuu ( #OtterSite ) starts planning a rewrite that adds #federation ( probably only #ActivityPub ). Looking to become an alternative to #Mastodon and #Pleroma, while still joining the #Fediverse. https://pjuu.com/joe/5b0383de620211edba040242ac140002 [pjuu com]
lnxw48a1: https://nu.federati.net/url/288425 [ar al] Aral Balkan explains why the current designs of #Mastodon and #ActivityPub promote centralization.
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 20:33:57 EST
https://nu.federati.net/url/288425 [ar al] Aral Balkan explains why the current designs of #Mastodon and #ActivityPub promote centralization.
Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)
lnxw48a1: I actually think that the overwhelming majority of blocking should be done by individuals curating their own timelines. I am sensitive to the effect on the Fediverse as a whole, especially as we've already been through this. Even the original #bifurcation (when the largest instance at the time, Identica, severed communication with #StatusNet / #GNUsocial & #OStatus and switched to the #Pump.io protocol and software) and the subsequent #ActivityPub - #OStatus split have caused untold breakage. I've seen AP-side devs, admins, users patting themselves on the back while commiserating about brokenness that is built into the protocol itself or at least its common implementations. I have also seen people telling other people to create "alts" on various instances, so that their posts can reach all of their intended contacts. Not for resilience against instance shutdowns or separating by posts and recipients by topics and interests (which is what groups and Diaspora style Aspects / GPlus style Circles are for), but because #blockwars prevents posts and members from one instance to be seen on certain others. For the record, I think that instance governance is something that Mastodon should include in its instances.social instance-picker, along with instances' topical foci. People should have a way to see what they're agreeing to (and what the alternatives are) before the sign up. In other words, it isn't my way or the highway so much as it is making it possible to know what one is getting into. I am certain that there are (or were) instances with democratically chosen rules. I also believe that we're not doing the people who use an instance any favor by not making it possible for them to contribute to the financing and administration of the instance. If you're paying all the costs and doing all the work to maintain and moderate the instance, it is difficult to let an election institute a policy that you disagree with. (I've started to really disagree with the idea of individuals hosting public instances wholly out of their own financial and time resources. Besides the "truck factor", it is much easier to keep an instance going if everything was already handled by a team and at least partly member supported.) On the other hand, if the instance encourages those in its membership who can do so to participate in keeping it going, then it is perfectly reasonable to expect the admin team to carry out the decisions voted by the membership. I do realize that not everyone can contribute funds, nor can everyone do the technical labor ... but as @simsa04 will remember, things like writing documentation, contributing in discussions about improving the software, designing and implementing themes, and even marketing-type tasks such as creating a logo and a favicon or promoting the instance to people outside the #Fediverse are beneficial.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 00:26:23 EDT
I actually think that the overwhelming majority of blocking should be done by individuals curating their own timelines. I am sensitive to the effect on the Fediverse as a whole, especially as we've already been through this. Even the original #bifurcation (when the largest instance at the time, Identica, severed communication with #StatusNet / #GNUsocial & #OStatus and switched to the #Pump.io protocol and software) and the subsequent #ActivityPub - #OStatus split have caused untold breakage. I've seen AP-side devs, admins, users patting themselves on the back while commiserating about brokenness that is built into the protocol itself or at least its common implementations. I have also seen people telling other people to create "alts" on various instances, so that their posts can reach all of their intended contacts. Not for resilience against instance shutdowns or separating by posts and recipients by topics and interests (which is what groups and Diaspora style Aspects / GPlus style Circles are for), but because #blockwars prevents posts and members from one instance to be seen on certain others. For the record, I think that instance governance is something that Mastodon should include in its instances.social instance-picker, along with instances' topical foci. People should have a way to see what they're agreeing to (and what the alternatives are) before the sign up. In other words, it isn't my way or the highway so much as it is making it possible to know what one is getting into. I am certain that there are (or were) instances with democratically chosen rules. I also believe that we're not doing the people who use an instance any favor by not making it possible for them to contribute to the financing and administration of the instance. If you're paying all the costs and doing all the work to maintain and moderate the instance, it is difficult to let an election institute a policy that you disagree with. (I've started to really disagree with the idea of individuals hosting public instances wholly out of their own financial and time resources. Besides the "truck factor", it is much easier to keep an instance going if everything was already handled by a team and at least partly member supported.) On the other hand, if the instance encourages those in its membership who can do so to participate in keeping it going, then it is perfectly reasonable to expect the admin team to carry out the decisions voted by the membership. I do realize that not everyone can contribute funds, nor can everyone do the technical labor ... but as @simsa04 will remember, things like writing documentation, contributing in discussions about improving the software, designing and implementing themes, and even marketing-type tasks such as creating a logo and a favicon or promoting the instance to people outside the #Fediverse are beneficial.
lnxw48a1: It would be nice to have a big chunk of the people who are using #corpocentric #socnets like #Twitter and #Facebook and #Instagram move some or all of their presence over to the #OStatus and #ActivityPub branches of the #Fediverse, but I'd much rather they come because they want to try something different instead of coming because they are fleeing some change or impending change over there. Why? Because these networks will never give them everything that those did. I personally believe that these networks can give some benefits that those cannot, but thus far, we've mostly tried to replicate their functionality ... without the benefit of nearly unlimited VC cash and a centralized model which puts $CentralizedNetwork at the center of its users' communications, where benefits built upon centralized knowledge of users' actions / choices / contacts. Therefore, in 2-3 weeks, I expect 9 out of 10 new users to have have returned to Twitter ... or to some centralized network that springs up to duplicate Twitter without the Musk factor. This has happened before. Maybe not on this scale, but it has happened. Multiple times. And always, most of them leave.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 19:11:54 EDT
It would be nice to have a big chunk of the people who are using #corpocentric #socnets like #Twitter and #Facebook and #Instagram move some or all of their presence over to the #OStatus and #ActivityPub branches of the #Fediverse, but I'd much rather they come because they want to try something different instead of coming because they are fleeing some change or impending change over there. Why? Because these networks will never give them everything that those did. I personally believe that these networks can give some benefits that those cannot, but thus far, we've mostly tried to replicate their functionality ... without the benefit of nearly unlimited VC cash and a centralized model which puts $CentralizedNetwork at the center of its users' communications, where benefits built upon centralized knowledge of users' actions / choices / contacts. Therefore, in 2-3 weeks, I expect 9 out of 10 new users to have have returned to Twitter ... or to some centralized network that springs up to duplicate Twitter without the Musk factor. This has happened before. Maybe not on this scale, but it has happened. Multiple times. And always, most of them leave.
hypolite: Because I could I keep thinking about a couple #Twitter threads criticizing #Mastodon (the #Fediverse, really) for being inherently different than closed commercial platforms using far-fetched hypotheticals and extraordinary occurrences; while I do not want to make a useless point-by-point response, instead I'll tell you what I like about federated social media and #Friendica in particular. After #Facebook froze my account for using a pseudonym (a spottily enforced rule), I started hosting my own #Diaspora pod because I could. I didn't know anyone so I initially made contacts with other podmins and progressively extended my circle through shared posts. This is how I learned about #Friendica, a platform that was compatible with both #Diaspora and #OStatus (#GNUSocial, #StatusNet ) because it could. Written in #PHP, liked both the multi-protocol approach and that I could contribute code to it. So I started hosting my #Friendica node and I kept following the same Diaspora accounts, because I could. When #Mastodon was first released based on OStatus, I started following several accounts on there because I could. When #ActivityPub was released and supported by Mastodon, we followed suite a few months later, because we could. With popularity came the right-wing trolls and free speech extremists who organized their own federated instances, but they never bothered me much as I blocked their entire instance domains because I could. None of these are currently possible with commercial platforms. Not all people will end up hosting their own node and it's fine, but the breadth of possibility is what makes federated social network attractive.
hypolite's status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 18:01:20 EDT
Because I could I keep thinking about a couple #Twitter threads criticizing #Mastodon (the #Fediverse, really) for being inherently different than closed commercial platforms using far-fetched hypotheticals and extraordinary occurrences; while I do not want to make a useless point-by-point response, instead I'll tell you what I like about federated social media and #Friendica in particular. After #Facebook froze my account for using a pseudonym (a spottily enforced rule), I started hosting my own #Diaspora pod because I could. I didn't know anyone so I initially made contacts with other podmins and progressively extended my circle through shared posts. This is how I learned about #Friendica, a platform that was compatible with both #Diaspora and #OStatus (#GNUSocial, #StatusNet ) because it could. Written in #PHP, liked both the multi-protocol approach and that I could contribute code to it. So I started hosting my #Friendica node and I kept following the same Diaspora accounts, because I could. When #Mastodon was first released based on OStatus, I started following several accounts on there because I could. When #ActivityPub was released and supported by Mastodon, we followed suite a few months later, because we could. With popularity came the right-wing trolls and free speech extremists who organized their own federated instances, but they never bothered me much as I blocked their entire instance domains because I could. None of these are currently possible with commercial platforms. Not all people will end up hosting their own node and it's fine, but the breadth of possibility is what makes federated social network attractive.
bobjonkman: Some days I'm glad my instance of #GNUsocial doesn't support #ActivityPub and isolates me from the idiocy on Mastodon of which I already get plenty from #Birdsite.
bobjonkman's status on Thursday, 16-Dec-2021 23:59:13 EST
Some days I'm glad my instance of #GNUsocial doesn't support #ActivityPub and isolates me from the idiocy on Mastodon of which I already get plenty from #Birdsite.
lnxw48a1: #Owncast is working on #ActivityPub support and some degree of interoperability with #PeerTube. I'd like to throw up experimental instances of both.
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 02-Jul-2021 18:17:15 EDT
#Owncast is working on #ActivityPub support and some degree of interoperability with #PeerTube. I'd like to throw up experimental instances of both.
lnxw48a1: https://poa.st/objects/6114d233-c662-4c1f-8192-c0d7691fbf1e At the time when NuFN becomes #ActivityPub capable, there will be some instance blocks instituted. I'll publish a list, but at the very least, it will include: * poa.st * anime.website * nnia.space I'll write up a list of criteria for blocking, most of which will apply to every !fnetworks instance, and a TOS/TOU document soon.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 29-Jun-2021 21:46:28 EDT
https://poa.st/objects/6114d233-c662-4c1f-8192-c0d7691fbf1e At the time when NuFN becomes #ActivityPub capable, there will be some instance blocks instituted. I'll publish a list, but at the very least, it will include: * poa.st * anime.website * nnia.space I'll write up a list of criteria for blocking, most of which will apply to every !fnetworks instance, and a TOS/TOU document soon.
lnxw48a1: https://github.com/gobengo/distbin An #ActivityPub compatible #pastebin. Seems to be abandoned. I wonder how well it worked.
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 05-Jun-2021 21:08:25 EDT
https://github.com/gobengo/distbin An #ActivityPub compatible #pastebin. Seems to be abandoned. I wonder how well it worked.
lnxw48a1: This instance is not yet #ActivityPub compatible, but I'm announcing in advance that we will begin blocking any instance which hosts potentially illegal material in line with https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html As far as I know, we do not have any remaining #OStatus compatible instances which allow such things, but if one shows up it will be blocked. !fnetworks
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 04-Jun-2021 18:53:47 EDT
This instance is not yet #ActivityPub compatible, but I'm announcing in advance that we will begin blocking any instance which hosts potentially illegal material in line with https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html As far as I know, we do not have any remaining #OStatus compatible instances which allow such things, but if one shows up it will be blocked. !fnetworks
lnxw48a1: I’m still looking for a low priced annual payment VPS provider that has a somewhat lower risk (of closure, hardware failure, etc) than most LEB hosts, so I can launch temporary testing instances (for example, the upgrade of GS to the #ActivityPub enabled 2.0 branch, and looking at how well #Zap, #Pleroma, #Friendica instances fit into the !FNetworks roadmap). I’m also considering adding a Federati #Pump.io instance, but I need to talk with the Pump.io project about SSO options. Since they use Node.JS, I’d want it on a completely separate VPS, with some restrictions to prevent incidents. Also, if utilization is too low, that would likely close. Currently, everything is still coming out of my pocket.
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 10-May-2021 19:00:34 EDT
I’m still looking for a low priced annual payment VPS provider that has a somewhat lower risk (of closure, hardware failure, etc) than most LEB hosts, so I can launch temporary testing instances (for example, the upgrade of GS to the #ActivityPub enabled 2.0 branch, and looking at how well #Zap, #Pleroma, #Friendica instances fit into the !FNetworks roadmap). I’m also considering adding a Federati #Pump.io instance, but I need to talk with the Pump.io project about SSO options. Since they use Node.JS, I’d want it on a completely separate VPS, with some restrictions to prevent incidents. Also, if utilization is too low, that would likely close. Currently, everything is still coming out of my pocket.
lnxw48a1: @musicman My understanding is that some came to the #ActivityPub side of the #Fediverse, but most went to #Gab, #Minds, and similarly #corpocentric platforms.
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 29-Jan-2021 15:43:41 EST
@musicman My understanding is that some came to the #ActivityPub side of the #Fediverse, but most went to #Gab, #Minds, and similarly #corpocentric platforms.
lnxw48a1: "The post"{https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@Elizafox/105562613778968936} seemed to be a lot of fear-mongering, even more than the article itself. (1) #Twitter has millions of users. There is no #ActivityPub nor #OStatus implementation in which an instance hosted on a $5/mo #DigitalOcean / #Linode / #Vultr #VPS could handle the volume of a seamless connection with #Twitter. If they adopted AP OStatus, #Diaspora, or any other current open federation protocol, instances that didn't use firewall blocking would topple once the two userbases had sufficient interconnections (within a few hours or a few days after they started federating). (2) Twitter's business model is to push ads disguised as tweets. If their users could escape those and still interact with all the same contacts, they would. I'm certain that Twitter's management know this. They also turn all links into tracking links, and sell access to media (images, video, audio) uploads of important news events to news organizations. (3) Most Fediverse instances are financed out of the admin's pocket. Some have financial contributors, but nothing like Twitter's revenue. As the largest and best-financed instance, they would immediately have to start implementing modifications to make AP or other existing federation protocols useful to them, and those modifications would (as Mastodon's currently do) become unofficially mandatory in order to be compatible. (4) This isn't the first time that Twitter has considered federation, though this may be the first time they openly discussed it. Back when Identica was still a happening place (during Twitter's fail-whale days), Twitter considered federating. They didn't do it then, and I honestly do not believe they will do it now. (5) I'd say that Twitter's #BlueSky initiative is more meant to try to get bidirectional connections across #Facebook's moat and wall than it is to surround Twitter with a cloud of #Fediverse instances.
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 16-Jan-2021 13:28:49 EST
"The post"{https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@Elizafox/105562613778968936} seemed to be a lot of fear-mongering, even more than the article itself. (1) #Twitter has millions of users. There is no #ActivityPub nor #OStatus implementation in which an instance hosted on a $5/mo #DigitalOcean / #Linode / #Vultr #VPS could handle the volume of a seamless connection with #Twitter. If they adopted AP OStatus, #Diaspora, or any other current open federation protocol, instances that didn't use firewall blocking would topple once the two userbases had sufficient interconnections (within a few hours or a few days after they started federating). (2) Twitter's business model is to push ads disguised as tweets. If their users could escape those and still interact with all the same contacts, they would. I'm certain that Twitter's management know this. They also turn all links into tracking links, and sell access to media (images, video, audio) uploads of important news events to news organizations. (3) Most Fediverse instances are financed out of the admin's pocket. Some have financial contributors, but nothing like Twitter's revenue. As the largest and best-financed instance, they would immediately have to start implementing modifications to make AP or other existing federation protocols useful to them, and those modifications would (as Mastodon's currently do) become unofficially mandatory in order to be compatible. (4) This isn't the first time that Twitter has considered federation, though this may be the first time they openly discussed it. Back when Identica was still a happening place (during Twitter's fail-whale days), Twitter considered federating. They didn't do it then, and I honestly do not believe they will do it now. (5) I'd say that Twitter's #BlueSky initiative is more meant to try to get bidirectional connections across #Facebook's moat and wall than it is to surround Twitter with a cloud of #Fediverse instances.
lnxw48a1: Now discussing changes needed to switch to #ActivityPub instead of their #Pump.io protocol (an ancestor of AP).
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 18-Dec-2020 16:20:44 EST
Now discussing changes needed to switch to #ActivityPub instead of their #Pump.io protocol (an ancestor of AP).
lnxw48a1: He's talking about things that decentralized networks (and the people and software projects involved in them) can do to be better (more attractive to users) than #corpocentric networks. Naturally, he's focused on the #ActivityPub subset of the #Fediverse, but some of this applies to other decentralized networks as well.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 29-Sep-2020 01:30:44 EDT
He's talking about things that decentralized networks (and the people and software projects involved in them) can do to be better (more attractive to users) than #corpocentric networks. Naturally, he's focused on the #ActivityPub subset of the #Fediverse, but some of this applies to other decentralized networks as well.
tobias: ♲ @AlexVoss@fosstodon.org: Student of mine is conducting a survey on the barriers to uptake of alternative social media platforms. Your input would be much appreciated. Please boost. standrews.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe… #fediverse #pleroma #gnusocial #diaspora #mastodon #activitypub #ostatus #pubsub #xmpp #mstdn #indieweb #friendica #peertube #hubzilla #socialhome #pixelfed #fedilab #nextcloud
tobias's status on Tuesday, 15-Sep-2020 09:31:03 EDT
♲ @AlexVoss@fosstodon.org: Student of mine is conducting a survey on the barriers to uptake of alternative social media platforms. Your input would be much appreciated. Please boost. standrews.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe… #fediverse #pleroma #gnusocial #diaspora #mastodon #activitypub #ostatus #pubsub #xmpp #mstdn #indieweb #friendica #peertube #hubzilla #socialhome #pixelfed #fedilab #nextcloud
clacke: ♻️ APConf 2020 2020-10-02--05 mastodon.social/@sl007/1046049… ♲ @sl007@mastodon.social: ActivityPub Conf 2020 #apconf2020 ⬡ #activitypub Find 17 talks and first sessions at the webpage … Following a successful inaugural conference in 2019, we have expanded APConf 2020 to a four day event that will occur entirely on line conf.activitypub.rocks
clacke's status on Wednesday, 05-Aug-2020 01:42:11 EDT
♻️ APConf 2020 2020-10-02--05 mastodon.social/@sl007/1046049… ♲ @sl007@mastodon.social: ActivityPub Conf 2020 #apconf2020 ⬡ #activitypub Find 17 talks and first sessions at the webpage … Following a successful inaugural conference in 2019, we have expanded APConf 2020 to a four day event that will occur entirely on line conf.activitypub.rocks
clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛
clacke: ♻️ fedi follow: pfefferle of AP for WP mastodon.online/@FediFollows/1… ♲ @FediFollows@mastodon.online: Matthias Pfefferle is the creator of a plug-in which lets you connect WordPress blogs to the Fediverse. You can follow here: ➡️ @pfefferle You can find out more about ActivityPub For WordPress at wordpress.org/plugins/activity… The plug-in lets people follow a WordPress blog from Mastodon or from any other Fediverse account, with new blog posts appearing to followers as toots. #WordPress #ActivityPub #Fediverse #Blogs #Blogging #PlugIns #PlugIn #Mastodon #Pleroma #Friendica #Hubzilla
clacke's status on Wednesday, 05-Aug-2020 00:50:48 EDT
♻️ fedi follow: pfefferle of AP for WP mastodon.online/@FediFollows/1… ♲ @FediFollows@mastodon.online: Matthias Pfefferle is the creator of a plug-in which lets you connect WordPress blogs to the Fediverse. You can follow here: ➡️ @pfefferle You can find out more about ActivityPub For WordPress at wordpress.org/plugins/activity… The plug-in lets people follow a WordPress blog from Mastodon or from any other Fediverse account, with new blog posts appearing to followers as toots. #WordPress #ActivityPub #Fediverse #Blogs #Blogging #PlugIns #PlugIn #Mastodon #Pleroma #Friendica #Hubzilla
lnxw48a1: https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/issues/160#issuecomment-19742 It looks like #ActivityPub support is getting closer.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2020 17:11:03 EDT
https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/issues/160#issuecomment-19742 It looks like #ActivityPub support is getting closer.
hypolite: The good thing about working on #Friendica is that I enjoy job safety. When I started working on it in 2016, the code base needed refactoring to ensure consistent behavior, testability and expandability. But we operate in such a fast-paced #ActivityPub context that even newish code needs to be refactored as well. 🤓
hypolite's status on Monday, 20-Jul-2020 23:06:56 EDT
The good thing about working on #Friendica is that I enjoy job safety. When I started working on it in 2016, the code base needed refactoring to ensure consistent behavior, testability and expandability. But we operate in such a fast-paced #ActivityPub context that even newish code needs to be refactored as well. 🤓
lnxw48a1: @simsa03 Yes. They are working on finishing #ActivityPub support for the 2.0 release. Then comes some serious re-architecting for the 3.0 release. Along the way, at least one new theme should be released.
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 17-Jul-2020 19:04:26 EDT
@simsa03 Yes. They are working on finishing #ActivityPub support for the 2.0 release. Then comes some serious re-architecting for the 3.0 release. Along the way, at least one new theme should be released.
hypolite: ♲ @bkoehn@mammoth.home.koehn.com: Added documentation and a few NPMs to solve dependency issues I've been having. Looking for brave souls who want to test out running my #ActivityPub application. https://gitlab.koehn.com/mammoth gitlab.koehn.com/mammoth
hypolite's status on Wednesday, 10-Jun-2020 12:37:02 EDT
♲ @bkoehn@mammoth.home.koehn.com: Added documentation and a few NPMs to solve dependency issues I've been having. Looking for brave souls who want to test out running my #ActivityPub application. https://gitlab.koehn.com/mammoth gitlab.koehn.com/mammoth
lnxw48a1: https://github.com/friendica/friendica/issues/8642 #Friendica Someone that is familiar with #Diaspora is writing a new socnet based on #ActivityPub, wishes to change other #Fediverse software to follow Diaspora's model (viewer's server hijacks hashtags so the #hashtag search points to the viewer's home server, not the original poster's home server). The model that has been followed by almost all federated socnets for over a decade is that hashtag search links are inserted by the poster's server and point back there. IMO, a remote server changing the links is sketchy as heck*, but if they added local hashtag links in a separate area outside the post itself, that's acceptable. Or if they followed the #Pump.io idea of keeping hashtags completely separate from the basic server, then an external server (e.g. ragtag\.io) would be called to index and link the tag during the posting process, and searches would be performed based on results from the tag server. Anyway, I can't be bothered logging into Github to comment, but maybe @heluecht and other Friendica devs will see this and take this into consideration. * Remote servers editing the contents of one's posts is about as sketchy as it gets. There are rare occasions where that may be acceptable (i.e., to insert NSFW tags / image hiding on posts from instances where untagged NSFW content originates), but editing content to hijack hashtag search is about as questionable as one could get.
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 18-May-2020 21:41:39 EDT
https://github.com/friendica/friendica/issues/8642 #Friendica Someone that is familiar with #Diaspora is writing a new socnet based on #ActivityPub, wishes to change other #Fediverse software to follow Diaspora's model (viewer's server hijacks hashtags so the #hashtag search points to the viewer's home server, not the original poster's home server). The model that has been followed by almost all federated socnets for over a decade is that hashtag search links are inserted by the poster's server and point back there. IMO, a remote server changing the links is sketchy as heck*, but if they added local hashtag links in a separate area outside the post itself, that's acceptable. Or if they followed the #Pump.io idea of keeping hashtags completely separate from the basic server, then an external server (e.g. ragtag\.io) would be called to index and link the tag during the posting process, and searches would be performed based on results from the tag server. Anyway, I can't be bothered logging into Github to comment, but maybe @heluecht and other Friendica devs will see this and take this into consideration. * Remote servers editing the contents of one's posts is about as sketchy as it gets. There are rare occasions where that may be acceptable (i.e., to insert NSFW tags / image hiding on posts from instances where untagged NSFW content originates), but editing content to hijack hashtag search is about as questionable as one could get.
ActivityPub objects contain links to Friendica for hashtags and mentions · Issue #8642 · friendica/friendica
lnxw37a1: @sl #Mastodon version 3.x and later (and #Pleroma version 2.x and later) does not use #OStatus as a federation protocol, so they broke federation with #GNUSocial. There's a little more work to do before the release of GS v.2.0, which adds #ActivityPub support.
lnxw37a1's status on Monday, 13-Apr-2020 13:49:33 EDT
@sl #Mastodon version 3.x and later (and #Pleroma version 2.x and later) does not use #OStatus as a federation protocol, so they broke federation with #GNUSocial. There's a little more work to do before the release of GS v.2.0, which adds #ActivityPub support.
lnxw48a1: @licho #Mastodon 3.x and #Pleroma 2x no longer speak the #OStatus federation protocol. !GNUsocial 2.0 will add the #ActivityPub federation protocol, so ask your admin to be ready to upgrade soon.
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 10-Apr-2020 12:17:51 EDT
@licho #Mastodon 3.x and #Pleroma 2x no longer speak the #OStatus federation protocol. !GNUsocial 2.0 will add the #ActivityPub federation protocol, so ask your admin to be ready to upgrade soon.
strypey: @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo 1) This doesn't answer the question, which is how to use a free code front-end to read content others have put in the FB silo.2) It really isn't. All #Diaspora can do is public and private posts, and photo uploads. #Friendica, #Hubzilla, or #Zap would be better recommendations for replacing the features people use FB for. They have events calendars and groups, and all federate over #ActivityPub, which Diaspora devs are still refusing to even consider. @paulakreuzer
strypey's status on Monday, 06-Apr-2020 23:32:47 EDT
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo 1) This doesn't answer the question, which is how to use a free code front-end to read content others have put in the FB silo. 2) It really isn't. All #Diaspora can do is public and private posts, and photo uploads. #Friendica, #Hubzilla, or #Zap would be better recommendations for replacing the features people use FB for. They have events calendars and groups, and all federate over #ActivityPub, which Diaspora devs are still refusing to even consider. @paulakreuzer
strypey: Under marked otherwise, all posts from this account are #CC #BYSA 4.0. Unless I send a DM, I want all my posts publicly visible, to any web browser, and any other user app or archival/ research system that speaks #ActivityPub (and ideally #Diaspora and #Zot too). I'm happy for them to be indexed by any search system and included in any relevant search. That's why I publish them on the web with Mastodon. When I want to have private discussion, I use DMs. One day the AP-verse will do this better.
strypey's status on Sunday, 05-Apr-2020 08:38:06 EDT
Under marked otherwise, all posts from this account are #CC #BYSA 4.0. Unless I send a DM, I want all my posts publicly visible, to any web browser, and any other user app or archival/ research system that speaks #ActivityPub (and ideally #Diaspora and #Zot too). I'm happy for them to be indexed by any search system and included in any relevant search. That's why I publish them on the web with Mastodon. When I want to have private discussion, I use DMs. One day the AP-verse will do this better.
strypey: @alcinnz have you looked at some of the new #ActivityPub projects related to the semantic web? https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/which-links-between-activitypub-and-solid-project/529
strypey's status on Sunday, 22-Mar-2020 18:29:17 EDT
@alcinnz have you looked at some of the new #ActivityPub projects related to the semantic web? https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/which-links-between-activitypub-and-solid-project/529
Which links between ActivityPub and Solid project?
strypey: @wyatwerp. > is there an #ActivityPub or #Zot "plug-in" for a 'Contribute' buttonGood question. Maybe GNU #Taler could be useful here? It's designed to accept payment in a number of forms, while protecting the #privacy of the payer. Clicking the 'contribute' button could trigger a transaction on a Taler instance on the same server.
strypey's status on Saturday, 21-Mar-2020 23:49:43 EDT
@wyatwerp. > is there an #ActivityPub or #Zot "plug-in" for a 'Contribute' button Good question. Maybe GNU #Taler could be useful here? It's designed to accept payment in a number of forms, while protecting the #privacy of the payer. Clicking the 'contribute' button could trigger a transaction on a Taler instance on the same server.
hubert: ♲ @dajbelshaw@mastodon.social: Hey all, we've got a small budget for @moodlenet security/privacy consulting. Would appreciate pointers to anyone with the chops (including #ActivityPub experience) who might be able to help audit our repos in the next few weeks/months 🙂
hubert's status on Monday, 09-Mar-2020 13:31:07 EDT
♲ @dajbelshaw@mastodon.social: Hey all, we've got a small budget for @moodlenet security/privacy consulting. Would appreciate pointers to anyone with the chops (including #ActivityPub experience) who might be able to help audit our repos in the next few weeks/months 🙂
strypey: #TIL about #LibreLingo, a collaborative language learning project that is considering implementing #ActivityPub: https://github.com/kantord/LibreLingo/issues/65
strypey's status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2020 17:00:06 EST
#TIL about #LibreLingo, a collaborative language learning project that is considering implementing #ActivityPub: https://github.com/kantord/LibreLingo/issues/65
federation of social features through ActivityPub · Issue #65 · kantord/LibreLingo