Updates tagged with hashtags on Jonkman Microblog!
lnxw48a1: https://www.theverge.com/23673125/mastodon-separate-tags-hashtag-navigation-accessibility [www theverge com] I have not read the linked GitHub issue, just the article, but I think the author's take is not the way it should be done. First of all, sometimes, #hashtags belong to the text. That they're links in the midst of plain text is part of what makes them valuable, just as the embedded links in the person's article. Secondly, having tags within the text does not preclude also having tags that are attached to posts but not within them. They could point to the same resources or even have different resources. For example, embedded tags could be based on the original post's home instance and attached tags could be based on the reader's home instance. This would give two different views of the tags' contents, assuming that the poster and the reader are not using the same instance. Finally, yes spammers and such can overuse and attempt to game tags to increase their posts' visibility. But the answer to that is for the software (Mastodon or whatever) to strictly enforce limits on the number of tags. Any time there's a tool to raise the visibility of something you post, it will be misused if possible. Long before hashtag abuse, there was meta tag abuse on web pages, when such tags were used to help decide which results to show in web pages. These days, I'm not even sure search engines still use meta tags to categorize sites and surface them in search results.
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 10-Apr-2023 20:44:12 EDT
https://www.theverge.com/23673125/mastodon-separate-tags-hashtag-navigation-accessibility [www theverge com] I have not read the linked GitHub issue, just the article, but I think the author's take is not the way it should be done. First of all, sometimes, #hashtags belong to the text. That they're links in the midst of plain text is part of what makes them valuable, just as the embedded links in the person's article. Secondly, having tags within the text does not preclude also having tags that are attached to posts but not within them. They could point to the same resources or even have different resources. For example, embedded tags could be based on the original post's home instance and attached tags could be based on the reader's home instance. This would give two different views of the tags' contents, assuming that the poster and the reader are not using the same instance. Finally, yes spammers and such can overuse and attempt to game tags to increase their posts' visibility. But the answer to that is for the software (Mastodon or whatever) to strictly enforce limits on the number of tags. Any time there's a tool to raise the visibility of something you post, it will be misused if possible. Long before hashtag abuse, there was meta tag abuse on web pages, when such tags were used to help decide which results to show in web pages. These days, I'm not even sure search engines still use meta tags to categorize sites and surface them in search results.
Hashtags are everything on Mastodon — why not give them a home?
lnxw48a1: @clacke Yeah, I am not a fan of most autoformatting. I would rather the person explicitly requests "change what I wrote" instead. #Hyperlinking (including @mentions, #hashtags, !bangtags) is the main exception.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-2022 13:36:59 EDT
@clacke Yeah, I am not a fan of most autoformatting. I would rather the person explicitly requests "change what I wrote" instead. #Hyperlinking (including @mentions, #hashtags, !bangtags) is the main exception.
stragu: To Fediverse users who use screen readers: do you prefer people to integrate #hashtags inside the text, or.... do you prefer when they repeat the word by listing all the hashtags at the end, after the text? Please boost. #hashtag
stragu's status on Saturday, 21-Sep-2019 05:46:55 EDT
To Fediverse users who use screen readers: do you prefer people to integrate #hashtags inside the text, or.... do you prefer when they repeat the word by listing all the hashtags at the end, after the text? Please boost. #hashtag
brainblasted: #testing #hashtags #in #Social and #Tootle
brainblasted's status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2019 01:28:30 EDT
#testing #hashtags #in #Social and #Tootle
hamishcampbell: Use #hashtags to brake out of the #filterbubles in the #dotcons the one i use for the #climatechoas discussion is #deathcult as #XR reveled it as outreach to much more mainstream people. The problems we face is that almost everyone comes up with "sulutions" to climate change that are still within the #deathcult so no real sulution at all. Continuing sad and bad.
hamishcampbell's status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2019 02:52:32 EDT
Use #hashtags to brake out of the #filterbubles in the #dotcons the one i use for the #climatechoas discussion is #deathcult as #XR reveled it as outreach to much more mainstream people. The problems we face is that almost everyone comes up with "sulutions" to climate change that are still within the #deathcult so no real sulution at all. Continuing sad and bad.
martin: Does anyone here rely on screen readers or #braille or something? How does your tool recognise #hashtags? Is the usage of many tags rather annoying for you?
martin's status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 10:14:22 EST
Does anyone here rely on screen readers or #braille or something? How does your tool recognise #hashtags? Is the usage of many tags rather annoying for you?
strypey: @andycuccaro please feel free to speak with #hashtags! It makes it a lot easier for people to find useful information about topics they're interested in, and people with common interest to follow. At least when you're discussing serious stuff, and not just #shiptoasting ;)
strypey's status on Thursday, 17-Jan-2019 09:49:31 EST
@andycuccaro please feel free to speak with #hashtags! It makes it a lot easier for people to find useful information about topics they're interested in, and people with common interest to follow. At least when you're discussing serious stuff, and not just #shiptoasting ;)
lnxw48a1: "... what happened recently with ... trending hashtags ..." (see @dansup's post about 4 hours ago) . I don't know what happened with #Twitter trending #hashtags, but their way of listing what is trending is of limited utility anyway. If it becomes "important", groups will conspire to post and repeat posts using the same tag in a short time period and sites may filter / censor which tags make the list.
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 03-Nov-2018 07:37:24 EDT
"... what happened recently with ... trending hashtags ..." (see @dansup's post about 4 hours ago) . I don't know what happened with #Twitter trending #hashtags, but their way of listing what is trending is of limited utility anyway. If it becomes "important", groups will conspire to post and repeat posts using the same tag in a short time period and sites may filter / censor which tags make the list.
william: @bushdoctorz I recommend you start off with an #Introduction, like this one: https://opensocial.africa/@falgn0n/99862640594925966 ----And then you should start to follow people that seem interesting to you. ---- In #Tusky, tap on the menu at the top-left and then tap on 'Search' - search or keywords or #hashtags - for example:#solarpunk or #gaming (or whatever you're into)
william's status on Thursday, 27-Sep-2018 10:08:14 EDT
@bushdoctorz I recommend you start off with an #Introduction, like this one: https://opensocial.africa/@falgn0n/99862640594925966 ---- And then you should start to follow people that seem interesting to you. ---- In #Tusky, tap on the menu at the top-left and then tap on 'Search' - search or keywords or #hashtags - for example: #solarpunk or #gaming (or whatever you're into)
xuv: Hey #mastodon, I'm confused. Do #hashtags work behind 'content warnings' ? It does not seem to work in the CW subject line...
xuv's status on Sunday, 22-Jul-2018 10:56:38 EDT
Hey #mastodon, I'm confused. Do #hashtags work behind 'content warnings' ? It does not seem to work in the CW subject line...
jeroenpraat: In version 2.4.1 these trending hashtags are still visible when you search on hashtags. 80% of the results are 0 and the graphs are useless IMO. I fixed this with simple CSS. Put this in your custom.scss and your themes:.trends__item__current, .trends__item__sparkline, .trends__item__name > span { display: none; }#mastoadmin #mastodev #trends #hashtags
jeroenpraat's status on Wednesday, 13-Jun-2018 09:23:41 EDT
In version 2.4.1 these trending hashtags are still visible when you search on hashtags. 80% of the results are 0 and the graphs are useless IMO. I fixed this with simple CSS. Put this in your custom.scss and your themes: .trends__item__current, .trends__item__sparkline, .trends__item__name > span { display: none; } #mastoadmin #mastodev #trends #hashtags
lain: #hashtags would be more #useful if you could #remotefollow them
lain's status on Thursday, 31-May-2018 04:20:42 EDT
#hashtags would be more #useful if you could #remotefollow them
lain: @shpuld those were all great #hashtags tho
lain's status on Sunday, 27-May-2018 13:56:08 EDT
@shpuld those were all great #hashtags tho
lain: You can tell when people are #new on #mastodon because they use #hashtags so much.
lain's status on Sunday, 27-May-2018 13:55:24 EDT
You can tell when people are #new on #mastodon because they use #hashtags so much.
dansup: @lain #what #do #you #have #against #hashtags? https://mastodon.social/@dansup/100024631479367072
dansup's status on Tuesday, 15-May-2018 16:29:49 EDT
@lain #what #do #you #have #against #hashtags? https://mastodon.social/@dansup/100024631479367072
lain: uwaa #mastodon please add #fulltextsearch so people won't fill their #toots with a million #hashtags
lain's status on Tuesday, 15-May-2018 16:02:52 EDT
uwaa #mastodon please add #fulltextsearch so people won't fill their #toots with a million #hashtags
lain: außerdem #warum so viel #hashtags :)
lain's status on Sunday, 13-May-2018 11:39:55 EDT
außerdem #warum so viel #hashtags :)
mayel: @bhaugen Those last three toots contain the most popular #hashtags from posts originating on #SocialCoop since it started.Since there is no built-in feature for this, I extracted them from the DB using:select concat('#',name) from statuses_tags left join tags on tag_id=tags.id left join statuses on statuses.id=status_id where local='t' group by name order by COUNT(name) desc LIMIT 100
mayel's status on Thursday, 10-May-2018 10:20:40 EDT
@bhaugen Those last three toots contain the most popular #hashtags from posts originating on #SocialCoop since it started. Since there is no built-in feature for this, I extracted them from the DB using: select concat('#',name) from statuses_tags left join tags on tag_id=tags.id left join statuses on statuses.id=status_id where local='t' group by name order by COUNT(name) desc LIMIT 100
lnxw37a2: Oh, what do we have here? #hashtags exposed in the interface! YYEESSSSSS!
lnxw37a2's status on Sunday, 15-Apr-2018 08:12:32 EDT
Oh, what do we have here? #hashtags exposed in the interface! YYEESSSSSS!
kris: Ahora que hay entusiasmo con paso de unas redes a otras, también podríamos hablar acerca de: - ¿Está la información a salvo de espionaje simplemente por aparecer en una infraestructura descentralizada? NO ¿Tiene la policía acceso a servidores de Diaspora o Mastodon?... respuesta tentativa: sí. - ¿Son estas las redes sociales de la libertad? NO. Una red social es una herramienta, no libera a nadie por más que tenga una licencia que le permita su difusión. De hecho en política una licencia es tan valiosa como un grano de arroz. - ¿Estamos haciendo #activismo-digital? En mi opinión el activismo es incompatible con permanecer frente al ordenador, no se reclaman derechos con #hashtags. - ¿Que hace falta para que nuestra información sea respetada? Otro sistema político y económico que no lograremos por la vía de la democracia representativa. #datos #servidores #descentralización #diaspora #hubzilla #mastodon #libertad #sistema
kris's status on Thursday, 12-Apr-2018 13:02:41 EDT
Ahora que hay entusiasmo con paso de unas redes a otras, también podríamos hablar acerca de: - ¿Está la información a salvo de espionaje simplemente por aparecer en una infraestructura descentralizada? NO ¿Tiene la policía acceso a servidores de Diaspora o Mastodon?... respuesta tentativa: sí. - ¿Son estas las redes sociales de la libertad? NO. Una red social es una herramienta, no libera a nadie por más que tenga una licencia que le permita su difusión. De hecho en política una licencia es tan valiosa como un grano de arroz. - ¿Estamos haciendo #activismo-digital? En mi opinión el activismo es incompatible con permanecer frente al ordenador, no se reclaman derechos con #hashtags. - ¿Que hace falta para que nuestra información sea respetada? Otro sistema político y económico que no lograremos por la vía de la democracia representativa. #datos #servidores #descentralización #diaspora #hubzilla #mastodon #libertad #sistema
bobjonkmangreen: eg. #cdnpoli on my current GNUsocial instance https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/cdnpoli and on an older instance http://s.russwurm.org/tag/cdnpoli or even a foreign site like https://gnusocial.de/tag/cdnpoli -- this actually illustrates the problem with #hashtags; they only propagate to instances where someone is subscribed to the person posting. A !grouptag will go to all instances where anyone has subscribed to the !grouptag, whether they're subscribed to the person posting or not.
bobjonkmangreen's status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-2018 16:34:28 EDT
eg. #cdnpoli on my current GNUsocial instance https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/cdnpoli and on an older instance http://s.russwurm.org/tag/cdnpoli or even a foreign site like https://gnusocial.de/tag/cdnpoli -- this actually illustrates the problem with #hashtags; they only propagate to instances where someone is subscribed to the person posting. A !grouptag will go to all instances where anyone has subscribed to the !grouptag, whether they're subscribed to the person posting or not.
whistlewright: I have a ton of #homestead stuff to do over the long weekend. We have plants to get in the ground, some painting to do etc. But I also need to rebuild my borked #emacs and setup the Manhut computer with a #MEANstack so I can do my #webdev courses. And, of course, I'll use an overabundance of #hashtags because I saw someone's #Diaspora site earlier today.
whistlewright's status on Thursday, 29-Mar-2018 16:28:32 EDT
I have a ton of #homestead stuff to do over the long weekend. We have plants to get in the ground, some painting to do etc. But I also need to rebuild my borked #emacs and setup the Manhut computer with a #MEANstack so I can do my #webdev courses. And, of course, I'll use an overabundance of #hashtags because I saw someone's #Diaspora site earlier today.
lnxw48a1: Are you saying that #Facebook doesn't have their own #hashtags yet? Do they think this is still 2009?
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 27-Mar-2018 23:29:36 EDT
Are you saying that #Facebook doesn't have their own #hashtags yet? Do they think this is still 2009?
lain's status on Saturday, 24-Mar-2018 12:21:28 EDT
@waifu also #hashtags
usblovedog: Here's my #dicpic #dickpic. It's from 2012 or 2013, but my #dong is as #long as ever! https://twitter.com/USBhumpDog/status/685280903090683904Posting unlisted instead of followers-only because I suspect more non-followers would be interested in seeing my #penor than my actual followers.Using #hashtags anyway, even though they don't work for #unlisted toots.(the 2016 #toilet & post-#piss variant: https://twitter.com/USBhumpDog/status/687896283386753024)I'll upload the actual files here if you really want.#diqpiq #dickpick
usblovedog's status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2018 23:49:54 EST
Here's my #dicpic #dickpic. It's from 2012 or 2013, but my #dong is as #long as ever! https://twitter.com/USBhumpDog/status/685280903090683904 Posting unlisted instead of followers-only because I suspect more non-followers would be interested in seeing my #penor than my actual followers. Using #hashtags anyway, even though they don't work for #unlisted toots. (the 2016 #toilet & post-#piss variant: https://twitter.com/USBhumpDog/status/687896283386753024) I'll upload the actual files here if you really want. #diqpiq #dickpick
gdorn: Idea: a Friday #recap of the best mastodon interactions you've had during the week. Summarize and link to the conversation, and add #hashtags you might have forgotten at the time.#Curation is a very manual process on Mastodon, for better or worse, so let's develop some habits to make #searching easier.
gdorn's status on Thursday, 11-Jan-2018 03:10:34 EST
Idea: a Friday #recap of the best mastodon interactions you've had during the week. Summarize and link to the conversation, and add #hashtags you might have forgotten at the time. #Curation is a very manual process on Mastodon, for better or worse, so let's develop some habits to make #searching easier.
katebowles: @miwilc The other side to this is how federation and #hashtags work, and why this makes mastodon hashtags distinctive as perspectival experiences, not communities as such. If I join #auspol on Twitter I can potentially see anything anyone has to say in that space. Not so here. But that takes a while to figure out.
katebowles's status on Friday, 01-Dec-2017 22:09:59 EST
@miwilc The other side to this is how federation and #hashtags work, and why this makes mastodon hashtags distinctive as perspectival experiences, not communities as such. If I join #auspol on Twitter I can potentially see anything anyone has to say in that space. Not so here. But that takes a while to figure out.
thatbrickster: #hashtags #in #your #bio #mean #nothing
thatbrickster's status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2017 09:04:10 EST
#hashtags #in #your #bio #mean #nothing
seanl: @paulfree14 I really need to get better at using #hashtags.
seanl's status on Friday, 03-Nov-2017 11:54:01 EDT
@paulfree14 I really need to get better at using #hashtags.
paulfree14: friendly reminder/question: can we use use #hashtags more often? :) It's a great way to discover new accounts based on once interest and also a great way to follow up discussion/news about a specific theme. #fediversesome hastags you might like:#ff #mastoart #nowplaying #p2p #libreMonday #antifa #mastodondev #anarchism #Catalonia #question #floss #opensource #fediversefriday
paulfree14's status on Friday, 03-Nov-2017 08:41:11 EDT
friendly reminder/question: can we use use #hashtags more often? :) It's a great way to discover new accounts based on once interest and also a great way to follow up discussion/news about a specific theme. #fediverse some hastags you might like: #ff #mastoart #nowplaying #p2p #libreMonday #antifa #mastodondev #anarchism #Catalonia #question #floss #opensource #fediversefriday
heluecht: @hoergen #wieso #stört #es #dich #denn #wenn #posts #viele #hashtags #haben? 😉
heluecht's status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2017 08:58:52 EDT
@hoergen #wieso #stört #es #dich #denn #wenn #posts #viele #hashtags #haben? 😉
xahlee: mastodon search function is a joke. after search, the results is a list of #hashtags. u then is supposed click the hashtag. lol
xahlee's status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2017 16:13:16 EDT
mastodon search function is a joke. after search, the results is a list of #hashtags. u then is supposed click the hashtag. lol
strypey: @deadsuperhero that sounds like implementation issues. From a #UX POV, subscribing to #HashTags is easier to understand than !groups
strypey's status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2017 08:23:33 EDT
@deadsuperhero that sounds like implementation issues. From a #UX POV, subscribing to #HashTags is easier to understand than !groups
paulfree14: Making #mastodon even more #fun:- use #hashtags fot toots you'll like to have sorted in themes for fediverse wide discovery and engagment - welcome newcomers joining in through #introduction - follow up hashtags and engage - having specific hashtags used by the mastodon #community to have wider discourse about things like #communityCulture #mastodonPR #mastodonDev then conversations are less exclusive and it's easier to sychronize with otherscan this go to hall of #greatIdeasforMastodon?
paulfree14's status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2017 19:09:30 EDT
Making #mastodon even more #fun: - use #hashtags fot toots you'll like to have sorted in themes for fediverse wide discovery and engagment - welcome newcomers joining in through #introduction - follow up hashtags and engage - having specific hashtags used by the mastodon #community to have wider discourse about things like #communityCulture #mastodonPR #mastodonDev then conversations are less exclusive and it's easier to sychronize with others can this go to hall of #greatIdeasforMastodon?