Updates tagged with ring on Jonkman Microblog!
lnxw48a1: In theory, I agree, but in practice, I have used #Ring, the earlier version of #Jami. The experience was so poor that I can no longer get my in-person contacts to try anything that is not #Facebook / #Instagram / #Zoom. And that's without ever trying the #videochat functionality ... we only used text chats and it was still a really poor experience. I've heard it got better, but of course, none of my in-person contacts will try it again. This also affects apps like #Briar and #Session.
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 17:56:15 EST
In theory, I agree, but in practice, I have used #Ring, the earlier version of #Jami. The experience was so poor that I can no longer get my in-person contacts to try anything that is not #Facebook / #Instagram / #Zoom. And that's without ever trying the #videochat functionality ... we only used text chats and it was still a really poor experience. I've heard it got better, but of course, none of my in-person contacts will try it again. This also affects apps like #Briar and #Session.
lnxw48a1: @lxo Unless the people using #Jami are pretty advanced, they won’t like it. Having to be online at the same time, difficulties trying to use the same ID on multiple devices, those are things that most people will not tolerate. Maybe they have fixed some issues since I last tried to use it, but it was unpleasant to use during and shortly after the GNU #Ring days.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 24-May-2022 08:47:02 EDT
@lxo Unless the people using #Jami are pretty advanced, they won’t like it. Having to be online at the same time, difficulties trying to use the same ID on multiple devices, those are things that most people will not tolerate. Maybe they have fixed some issues since I last tried to use it, but it was unpleasant to use during and shortly after the GNU #Ring days.
lnxw48a1: @geniusmusing @lxo This is important. #GNU #Jami used to only send when both parties were online simultaneously. If the parties in the conversation are in different timezones, that may not happen often. Users reasonably want end-to-end encryption (E2EE), but still want some basic usability. (The experience back in the GNU #Ring days was pretty bad. Even today, none of my contacts will reconsider it.)
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 22-Aug-2021 14:09:44 EDT
@geniusmusing @lxo This is important. #GNU #Jami used to only send when both parties were online simultaneously. If the parties in the conversation are in different timezones, that may not happen often. Users reasonably want end-to-end encryption (E2EE), but still want some basic usability. (The experience back in the GNU #Ring days was pretty bad. Even today, none of my contacts will reconsider it.)
lnxw48a1: Likewise, I’ve pretty much abandoned #Jami (or #Ring, if you used it previously) because all my contacts dumped it years back when an update forced everyone to re-add their contacts.
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 28-Jan-2021 13:13:51 EST
Likewise, I’ve pretty much abandoned #Jami (or #Ring, if you used it previously) because all my contacts dumped it years back when an update forced everyone to re-add their contacts.
lnxw48a1: Experience with #Jami's ancestor #Ring tells me that it needs a fairly technical user who is willing to tolerate some annoying deficiencies. My contacts have all dropped it, including one son who is a network engineer. Be careful about promoting it to people who are not willing to endure those things, or we can chase people away from all non-Facebook communications software.
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 23-Mar-2020 14:23:53 EDT
Experience with #Jami's ancestor #Ring tells me that it needs a fairly technical user who is willing to tolerate some annoying deficiencies. My contacts have all dropped it, including one son who is a network engineer. Be careful about promoting it to people who are not willing to endure those things, or we can chase people away from all non-Facebook communications software.
lnxw37d2: @AvnSgt @oldvetcodes Thanks. This is a tough one. #Wire is the first and only privacy-centric tool that is in widespread use among my friends and family. Several of them tried #Ring (now #Jami) before that, but it was a bad experience all around and cries of "it got better" won't get anyone to try it.
lnxw37d2's status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2019 15:07:42 EST
@AvnSgt @oldvetcodes Thanks. This is a tough one. #Wire is the first and only privacy-centric tool that is in widespread use among my friends and family. Several of them tried #Ring (now #Jami) before that, but it was a bad experience all around and cries of "it got better" won't get anyone to try it.
schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #Ring Spends The Week Collecting Data On Trick-Or-Treating Kids And Being An Attack Vector For Home #WiFi Networks https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20191108/16451143350/ring-spends-week-collecting-data-trick-or-treating-kids-being-attack-vector-home-wifi-networks.shtml
schestowitz's status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2019 11:13:23 EST
● NEWS ● #Ring Spends The Week Collecting Data On Trick-Or-Treating Kids And Being An Attack Vector For Home #WiFi Networks https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20191108/16451143350/ring-spends-week-collecting-data-trick-or-treating-kids-being-attack-vector-home-wifi-networks.shtml
Ring Spends The Week Collecting Data On Trick-Or-Treating Kids And Being An Attack Vector For Home WiFi Networks
schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #policce #cctv #listeningdevices ☞ Civil Rights Groups Ask Legislators To Block #Ring 's #Surveillance Partnerships With Law Enforcement https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20191012/10074543179/civil-rights-groups-ask-legislators-to-block-rings-surveillance-partnerships-with-law-enforcement.shtml
schestowitz's status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2019 10:16:56 EDT
● NEWS ● #policce #cctv #listeningdevices ☞ Civil Rights Groups Ask Legislators To Block #Ring 's #Surveillance Partnerships With Law Enforcement https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20191012/10074543179/civil-rights-groups-ask-legislators-to-block-rings-surveillance-partnerships-with-law-enforcement.shtml
Civil Rights Groups Ask Legislators To Block Ring's Surveillance Partnerships With Law Enforcement
schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #listeningdevices ☞ #EFF Challenges #Ring Spokesperson #Shaq Over #Privacy Concerns https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/eff-challenges-ring-spokesperson-shaq-over-privacy-concerns
schestowitz's status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2019 10:04:55 EDT
● NEWS ● #listeningdevices ☞ #EFF Challenges #Ring Spokesperson #Shaq Over #Privacy Concerns https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/eff-challenges-ring-spokesperson-shaq-over-privacy-concerns
EFF Challenges Ring Spokesperson Shaq Over Privacy Concerns
fabregregori: Talking to Amazon’s Echo Loop #ring is like whispe#ring a secret to Alexa #theverge https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/25/20884044/amazon-echo-loop-smart-ring-hands-on-photos-alexa #amazon
fabregregori's status on Wednesday, 25-Sep-2019 16:20:24 EDT
Talking to Amazon’s Echo Loop #ring is like whispe#ring a secret to Alexa #theverge https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/25/20884044/amazon-echo-loop-smart-ring-hands-on-photos-alexa #amazon
strypey: @clacke Jami = #Ring. New name. When did you try it last?> This is a conundrum for p2p communications... with devices that depend on battery power. True. Although I think it has as much to do with the efficiency of subsystems that handle things like push notifications as the apps themselves. I suspect grown-up GNU/Linux coming to mobile devices will lead to improvements in this that aren't possible with kindergarten OS like #Android. @AmarOk @nurinoas @teaneedz
strypey's status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2019 04:17:29 EDT
@clacke Jami = #Ring. New name. When did you try it last? > This is a conundrum for p2p communications ... with devices that depend on battery power. True. Although I think it has as much to do with the efficiency of subsystems that handle things like push notifications as the apps themselves. I suspect grown-up GNU/Linux coming to mobile devices will lead to improvements in this that aren't possible with kindergarten OS like #Android. @AmarOk @nurinoas @teaneedz
lnxw48a1: @deavmi You can find both of my #ring accounts as "lnxw37".
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2019 23:30:20 EDT
@deavmi You can find both of my #ring accounts as "lnxw37".
lnxw48a1: @rw A few family members complain that I can’t see their calendar events, but the biggest annoyance I have with not being a #Facebook user is all the people that say “did you see what cousin so and so just said?” and then stick their phones in my face. If I wanted to see all that random garbage, I would still have an account. Yes, but how can we get in touch with you? Let me count the ways: * call * text * !XMPP * #Wire * #Ring / #Jami * e-mail * in person * contact any of my sons, nephews, siblings, my youngest niece, the cousin that lives in TX, or my mom and ask them to forward
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2019 14:45:55 EDT
@rw A few family members complain that I can’t see their calendar events, but the biggest annoyance I have with not being a #Facebook user is all the people that say “did you see what cousin so and so just said?” and then stick their phones in my face. If I wanted to see all that random garbage, I would still have an account. Yes, but how can we get in touch with you? Let me count the ways: * call * text * !XMPP * #Wire * #Ring / #Jami * e-mail * in person * contact any of my sons, nephews, siblings, my youngest niece, the cousin that lives in TX, or my mom and ask them to forward
lnxw48a1: @bobjonkman I found our conversation about #Jami / #Ring. See https://nu.federati.net/conversation/2033439 CC: @davehunt, who was also trying it at that time.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2019 17:33:14 EDT
@bobjonkman I found our conversation about #Jami / #Ring. See https://nu.federati.net/conversation/2033439 CC: @davehunt, who was also trying it at that time.
bobjonkman: That conversation would have been at least a year ago, and probably on #Wire -- my main laptop with all the comm clients on it has been relegated to to the basement to be a server (dead screen), and my currently laptop lacks the oomph to do things like #Ring / #Jami / #Wire
bobjonkman's status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2019 17:02:57 EDT
That conversation would have been at least a year ago, and probably on #Wire -- my main laptop with all the comm clients on it has been relegated to to the basement to be a server (dead screen), and my currently laptop lacks the oomph to do things like #Ring / #Jami / #Wire
lnxw48a1: I think I had a brief text conversation on #Ring / #Jami with @bobjonkman a couple of months back, and that is the only one since November of 2017. . I think it is time to declare it dead and bury the carcass.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2019 11:33:56 EDT
I think I had a brief text conversation on #Ring / #Jami with @bobjonkman a couple of months back, and that is the only one since November of 2017. . I think it is time to declare it dead and bury the carcass.
lnxw48a1: @bob #Tox was one of four things (Tox, #Ring, #Matrix, #Wire) I tried to get family members to try out a couple of years back. None of them ever did, so I cannot say whether Tox is useful (being that I have never actually used it).
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 17-Feb-2019 07:59:17 EST
@bob #Tox was one of four things (Tox, #Ring, #Matrix, #Wire) I tried to get family members to try out a couple of years back. None of them ever did, so I cannot say whether Tox is useful (being that I have never actually used it).
lnxw48a1: @davehunt @bobjonkman @mangeurdenuage I made the mistake of trying to get a group of family members to migrate to #Ring / #Jami about 18 months ago. At the time, there was no presence indicator, so it was "send message, hope the other party is there to receive it; oops, message is hung up trying to send, I guess they aren't online right now". Then came an update that meant needing to re-request connection with all my contacts, and that was it. A single contact confirmed connection, but I never again successfully sent or received a message*, and they all stopped using it. * I believe I successfully sent one message to BobJonkman a day or two ago, but he was away, so no answer was received.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 18:51:50 EST
@davehunt @bobjonkman @mangeurdenuage I made the mistake of trying to get a group of family members to migrate to #Ring / #Jami about 18 months ago. At the time, there was no presence indicator, so it was "send message, hope the other party is there to receive it; oops, message is hung up trying to send, I guess they aren't online right now". Then came an update that meant needing to re-request connection with all my contacts, and that was it. A single contact confirmed connection, but I never again successfully sent or received a message*, and they all stopped using it. * I believe I successfully sent one message to BobJonkman a day or two ago, but he was away, so no answer was received.
lnxw48a1: Logged into #Ring / #Jami to add @davehunt and @bobjonkman and see if it has improved since my contacts abandoned it after an update forced contact re-requests.
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 19:46:21 EST
Logged into #Ring / #Jami to add @davehunt and @bobjonkman and see if it has improved since my contacts abandoned it after an update forced contact re-requests.
lnxw48a1: @davehunt @bobjonkman I still have it installed under its old name #Ring. I'm not often online, because none of my contacts use it any more, but I'm "lnxw37" there.
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 04:41:32 EST
@davehunt @bobjonkman I still have it installed under its old name #Ring. I'm not often online, because none of my contacts use it any more, but I'm "lnxw37" there.
strypey: @AmarOk do you know what's happening with the #Ring #PPA with the name change to #Jami? Do I need to change to a new PPA? If so, do I need to uninstall, and reinstall?
strypey's status on Monday, 07-Jan-2019 14:15:03 EST
@AmarOk do you know what's happening with the #Ring #PPA with the name change to #Jami? Do I need to change to a new PPA? If so, do I need to uninstall, and reinstall?
mkwadee: #GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring) update: a few days ago, I got the #program to work over a #LAN and today I now know it works over a #WAN (home to work) both for #messaging and #video #calls. Good job and thanks to the developers.#VoIP #FreeSoftware
mkwadee's status on Monday, 07-Jan-2019 11:56:14 EST
#GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring) update: a few days ago, I got the #program to work over a #LAN and today I now know it works over a #WAN (home to work) both for #messaging and #video #calls. Good job and thanks to the developers. #VoIP #FreeSoftware
strypey: @kawaiipunk I've been thinking about these for years, like #Serval, #GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring), #Tox, and others. But I struggle to find people to test them with, and when a "secure" chat app only has clients for iOS and Android, I struggle to take them seriously. @bob @gentoorebel @noorul
strypey's status on Sunday, 06-Jan-2019 13:02:36 EST
@kawaiipunk I've been thinking about these for years, like #Serval, #GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring), #Tox, and others. But I struggle to find people to test them with, and when a "secure" chat app only has clients for iOS and Android, I struggle to take them seriously. @bob @gentoorebel @noorul
strypey: @bikecurious AFAIK #GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring) is a serverless/ #P2P app, not a #SIP client. However, I do seem to have a knowledge gap when it comes to the relationship between SIP and #WebRTC. Any good links for filling that gap? @gentoorebel @noorul @fdroidorg @finn @clacke
strypey's status on Sunday, 06-Jan-2019 06:40:21 EST
@bikecurious AFAIK #GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring) is a serverless/ #P2P app, not a #SIP client. However, I do seem to have a knowledge gap when it comes to the relationship between SIP and #WebRTC. Any good links for filling that gap? @gentoorebel @noorul @fdroidorg @finn @clacke
strypey: @greenjon if you want a similar service to Signal that isn't US-based, is planning to implement server>server federation, and is more friendly to the software freedom movement, I suggest trying #Wire. #GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring) is also worth a try, but much less user-friendly (at least last time I tried it).
strypey's status on Sunday, 06-Jan-2019 05:29:50 EST
@greenjon if you want a similar service to Signal that isn't US-based, is planning to implement server>server federation, and is more friendly to the software freedom movement, I suggest trying #Wire. #GNU #Jami (formerly #Ring) is also worth a try, but much less user-friendly (at least last time I tried it).
mkwadee: Finally got #GNU #Jami (used to be called #Ring) to work (i.e. communicate) with another computer. I need to experiment with it a bit more, I suppose.#FreeSoftware #VoIP
mkwadee's status on Friday, 04-Jan-2019 12:01:26 EST
Finally got #GNU #Jami (used to be called #Ring) to work (i.e. communicate) with another computer. I need to experiment with it a bit more, I suppose. #FreeSoftware #VoIP
strypey: @switchingsocial I know you've addressed this in your FAQ but I really want to challenge not listing #Wire on your list of messenger apps. It's much easier for non-technical people to understand and use than #Jami / #Ring (I've got my family using Wire with me). Also, unlike Signal, Wire can be used without supplying a phone number, and they have plans to implement server>server federation: https://github.com/wireapp/wire/issues/160#issuecomment-446551908
strypey's status on Friday, 28-Dec-2018 09:13:39 EST
@switchingsocial I know you've addressed this in your FAQ but I really want to challenge not listing #Wire on your list of messenger apps. It's much easier for non-technical people to understand and use than #Jami / #Ring (I've got my family using Wire with me). Also, unlike Signal, Wire can be used without supplying a phone number, and they have plans to implement server>server federation: https://github.com/wireapp/wire/issues/160#issuecomment-446551908
Alter TOS to allow for federation with other networks · Issue #160 · wireapp/wire
strypey: I wonder if #Bitmessage protocol could be used to implement offline text messages in #GNU #Ring? https://github.com/Bitmessage
strypey's status on Thursday, 20-Dec-2018 11:33:39 EST
I wonder if #Bitmessage protocol could be used to implement offline text messages in #GNU #Ring? https://github.com/Bitmessage
strypey: @clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion threads he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns?https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121
strypey's status on Monday, 17-Dec-2018 00:56:43 EST
@clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion threads he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns?https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121
strypey: @clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion thread he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns? https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121
strypey's status on Monday, 17-Dec-2018 00:56:14 EST
@clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion thread he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns? https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121
Crypto and Security Audit · Issue #121 · irungentoo/toxcore
sdf: SDF #voip has just added a block of 20 more DID numbers in (929)299-12xx available to any VoIP member for $21/quarter unlimited world wide terrestrial/cell calling (no satellite numbers due to the cost). #ring #call #chat
sdf's status on Thursday, 13-Dec-2018 11:40:12 EST
SDF #voip has just added a block of 20 more DID numbers in (929)299-12xx available to any VoIP member for $21/quarter unlimited world wide terrestrial/cell calling (no satellite numbers due to the cost). #ring #call #chat
lnxw48a1: @geniusmusing #Wire is currently not #federated (though the client and possibly the server are now FOSS), but it offers an easy noob-friendly encrypted chat. Out of the ones I’ve tried, this is the one that I’ve been able to get some of my family members to use. (Some of them also used #Ring, but there were some problems with a version upgrade forcing people to re-request connection to their contacts, and none of my contacts made it past that.)
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 10:33:03 EST
@geniusmusing #Wire is currently not #federated (though the client and possibly the server are now FOSS), but it offers an easy noob-friendly encrypted chat. Out of the ones I’ve tried, this is the one that I’ve been able to get some of my family members to use. (Some of them also used #Ring, but there were some problems with a version upgrade forcing people to re-request connection to their contacts, and none of my contacts made it past that.)
fabregregori: Pre-Black Friday deal alert: #ring Video Doorbell 2 and Echo Dot for $140 #theverge https://www.theverge.com/good-deals/2018/11/19/18103207/best-buy-black-friday-deals-sale-ring-video-doorbell-2-free-echo-dot-2018
fabregregori's status on Monday, 19-Nov-2018 15:31:16 EST
Pre-Black Friday deal alert: #ring Video Doorbell 2 and Echo Dot for $140 #theverge https://www.theverge.com/good-deals/2018/11/19/18103207/best-buy-black-friday-deals-sale-ring-video-doorbell-2-free-echo-dot-2018
thurloat: Anyone using #gnu #ring?How has your experience been?
thurloat's status on Saturday, 20-Oct-2018 08:24:32 EDT
Anyone using #gnu #ring? How has your experience been?
fdroidorg: We are looking for more maintainers for specific apps in #FDroid. Here is a list of some that would need some love:* GNU #Ring * #VLC * #Fennec * #Vespuccio * #GhostCommander * #LinphoneIf you know how to build software in general, no particular Android experience is required. This can be picked up as you go :)All of those already have working recipes available but all of them also have quirks that require manual action when updating.Please get in contact, if you use one of these and are interested!
fdroidorg's status on Thursday, 18-Oct-2018 11:43:44 EDT
We are looking for more maintainers for specific apps in #FDroid. Here is a list of some that would need some love: * GNU #Ring * #VLC * #Fennec * #Vespuccio * #GhostCommander * #Linphone If you know how to build software in general, no particular Android experience is required. This can be picked up as you go :) All of those already have working recipes available but all of them also have quirks that require manual action when updating. Please get in contact, if you use one of these and are interested!
fabregregori: Ring’s new indoor and outdoor security cameras are its cheapest yet #theverge https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/9/20/17883394/amazon-ring-stick-up-cam-smart-home-security-cameras-price #ring
fabregregori's status on Thursday, 20-Sep-2018 14:14:03 EDT
Ring’s new indoor and outdoor security cameras are its cheapest yet #theverge https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/9/20/17883394/amazon-ring-stick-up-cam-smart-home-security-cameras-price #ring
strypey: I figured out I'd accidentally followed the #Ring installation instructions for 18.04, not 16.04, so now Trisquel 8 is finding the files for install. But it seems to be having trouble actually getting them downloaded. Not sure if it's my network connection (location / speed), or the fact I'm browsing the #fediverse while trying to do the downloads.
strypey's status on Thursday, 20-Sep-2018 12:53:49 EDT
I figured out I'd accidentally followed the #Ring installation instructions for 18.04, not 16.04, so now Trisquel 8 is finding the files for install. But it seems to be having trouble actually getting them downloaded. Not sure if it's my network connection (location / speed), or the fact I'm browsing the #fediverse while trying to do the downloads.
strypey: @danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux > In the end #Matrix still seems the most promising one to me, due to the presence of both a public community and a IM.#Matrix is client/server, so quite a different beast from #Tox / #Ring, which are serverless. Matrix seems like a good candidate for replacing both #IRC and #Slack, given that it's federated by default (unlike IRC which needs a bunch of extra stuff to support federation), and it's an open protocol (unlike Slack which is a #DataFarm).
strypey's status on Thursday, 20-Sep-2018 10:17:06 EDT
@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux > In the end #Matrix still seems the most promising one to me, due to the presence of both a public community and a IM. #Matrix is client/server, so quite a different beast from #Tox / #Ring, which are serverless. Matrix seems like a good candidate for replacing both #IRC and #Slack, given that it's federated by default (unlike IRC which needs a bunch of extra stuff to support federation), and it's an open protocol (unlike Slack which is a #DataFarm).
strypey: @danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux > #Ring is really interesting, I've downloaded it but I've never tried it.I've only used it once. The distro I have been using up until recently was too old to support it. Ring did a reasonable job of a one-to-one voice call (bit of echo at my end that I could work out how to fix), but it doesn't seem to support delivery of messages if the receiver was offline when it was sent. If you're keen to test, my Ring ID is 'strypey'
strypey's status on Thursday, 20-Sep-2018 10:13:29 EDT
@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux > #Ring is really interesting, I've downloaded it but I've never tried it. I've only used it once. The distro I have been using up until recently was too old to support it. Ring did a reasonable job of a one-to-one voice call (bit of echo at my end that I could work out how to fix), but it doesn't seem to support delivery of messages if the receiver was offline when it was sent. If you're keen to test, my Ring ID is 'strypey'
strypey: @danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux As the TokTok devs make it clear, they know there are issues with the #Tox protocol, and have a plan to address them. They clearly state the limits of Tox on their TokTok website, and all the clients have "alpha software" disclaimers. Most of the projects the critics claim they should all work on instead of client/server, not #P2P. Tox, like #Ring or #Ricochet or #Briar, are attempting a totally different thing from #Signal / #Noise.
strypey's status on Thursday, 20-Sep-2018 08:25:27 EDT
@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux As the TokTok devs make it clear, they know there are issues with the #Tox protocol, and have a plan to address them. They clearly state the limits of Tox on their TokTok website, and all the clients have "alpha software" disclaimers. Most of the projects the critics claim they should all work on instead of client/server, not #P2P. Tox, like #Ring or #Ricochet or #Briar, are attempting a totally different thing from #Signal / #Noise.
strypey: @TheOuterLinux @danyspin97 have you tried #Wire and #Ring? Wire relies on a centralized server, but Ring is #P2P (like #Tox). They're both #FreeCode and both work pretty well for text chat, one-to-one voice calls (although I had persistent echo on Ring the one time I've tesed it so far). I've also tested file-transfer and image sharing on Wire, which work fine. Haven't test conference calling or video chat on either yet.
strypey's status on Thursday, 20-Sep-2018 07:22:29 EDT
@TheOuterLinux @danyspin97 have you tried #Wire and #Ring? Wire relies on a centralized server, but Ring is #P2P (like #Tox). They're both #FreeCode and both work pretty well for text chat, one-to-one voice calls (although I had persistent echo on Ring the one time I've tesed it so far). I've also tested file-transfer and image sharing on Wire, which work fine. Haven't test conference calling or video chat on either yet.
strypey: I wonder if it would be possible for #XMPP clients to implement the #P2P voice/video calling protocols used by #Ring and #Tox? This might work better than the current solution(s), and take a lot of stress off the servers in the XMPP network.
strypey's status on Thursday, 20-Sep-2018 00:33:07 EDT
I wonder if it would be possible for #XMPP clients to implement the #P2P voice/video calling protocols used by #Ring and #Tox? This might work better than the current solution(s), and take a lot of stress off the servers in the XMPP network.
strypey's status on Tuesday, 11-Sep-2018 22:47:13 EDT
@js have you tried #GNU #Ring?
strypey: Just tested a voice call on #GNU #Ring for the first time (my Ring ID is 'strypey'). Worked pretty well. Not quite as good as #Wire, mainly because with Ring there was 3 sec delay, and I couldn't get it to stop echoing my own voice back to me, even using headphones and an external mic. More tweaking required (at my end or theirs)? Quite impressive though considering no server is involved. Client #UX isn't quite a smooth as Wire yet, but it has a lot of potential.
strypey's status on Tuesday, 11-Sep-2018 04:51:06 EDT
Just tested a voice call on #GNU #Ring for the first time (my Ring ID is 'strypey'). Worked pretty well. Not quite as good as #Wire, mainly because with Ring there was 3 sec delay, and I couldn't get it to stop echoing my own voice back to me, even using headphones and an external mic. More tweaking required (at my end or theirs)? Quite impressive though considering no server is involved. Client #UX isn't quite a smooth as Wire yet, but it has a lot of potential.
strypey: @ring I'm installing #Ring on Trisquel 8 using the instructions for Ubuntu 16.04. The command to add the "universe" repo throws an error. After a bit of head-scratching, I just skipped that step and it seems to be working. Would be good to put a note in your installation instructions warning Trisquel users about this.
strypey's status on Tuesday, 11-Sep-2018 03:22:43 EDT
@ring I'm installing #Ring on Trisquel 8 using the instructions for Ubuntu 16.04. The command to add the "universe" repo throws an error. After a bit of head-scratching, I just skipped that step and it seems to be working. Would be good to put a note in your installation instructions warning Trisquel users about this.
strypey: @wuhei @mayel I'm keen to test #GNU #Ring, if I can find someone to test it with.
strypey's status on Monday, 10-Sep-2018 12:08:19 EDT
@wuhei @mayel I'm keen to test #GNU #Ring, if I can find someone to test it with.
strypey: @notjustbill What apps do you have? I'm looking for secure messaging buddies. Keen to test #Wire and #GNU #Ring for a start.
strypey's status on Thursday, 30-Aug-2018 03:06:53 EDT
@notjustbill What apps do you have? I'm looking for secure messaging buddies. Keen to test #Wire and #GNU #Ring for a start.
ring: I 💖 #Ring, want to contribute, but I'm not a #software engineer 😐 ! Don't worry, there are many ways to join community of contributors 🙂 Have you tried your #translation skills? Here's the platform to voice your presence in the community 👉https://www.transifex.com/savoirfairelinux/ring/
ring's status on Wednesday, 01-Aug-2018 11:57:35 EDT
I 💖 #Ring, want to contribute, but I'm not a #software engineer 😐 ! Don't worry, there are many ways to join community of contributors 🙂 Have you tried your #translation skills? Here's the platform to voice your presence in the community 👉https://www.transifex.com/savoirfairelinux/ring/