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items: lnxw48a1: Launched #Manyverse and it found a pub! Now connected to #SSB.
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items: lnxw48a1: Looks like the Secure ScuttleButt #SSB pubs are again having issues. #Manyverse can’t complete a connection, so no incoming or outgoing messages.
items: lnxw48a1: By the way, in my mind, #SSB stands for single sideband, a kind of radio modulation used by hams. If you’re the same, don’t let using the same hashtag for secure scuttlebutt throw you.
items: lnxw48a1: Good. I was seriously considering abandoning the #SSB (Secure ScuttleButt) network entirely.
items: lnxw48a1: And #Manyverse ( #SSB client for #iOS and #Android ) is suddenly picking up incoming posts, at least on the iPad. I'll check the other tablet later.
items: strypey: This animated video explains how Scuttlebutt works using a love story: https://vimeo.com/236358264#Scuttlebutt #SSB #video #animation
items: lnxw48a1: Manyverse (an #SSB client for Android and iOS) is crashy on both mobile operating systems.
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items: xvu: #ssb ID for the folks that are on there as well: @JUBGIPQ3KzZEqc03FX53bZucL9i/UqgHQgpPyJHPzpw=.ed25519
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title: lnxw48a1: #SSB ( #Secure_ScuttleButt ) seems interesting, but needing an invitation to a room server or pub server in order to communicate with anyone whom you don't share a local network with means that disconnected new users will abandon the network because they cannot view anyone else's posts and neither can other users view theirs. It seems like this is an oversight, as I cannot imagine someone intentionally choosing to make a distributed network with this sort of dependency and few to no open-to-the-public general-purpose pub / room servers to join.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1108574
description: lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 31-Jan-2023 22:06:14 EST
encoded: #SSB ( #Secure_ScuttleButt ) seems interesting, but needing an invitation to a room server or pub server in order to communicate with anyone whom you don't share a local network with means that disconnected new users will abandon the network because they cannot view anyone else's posts and neither can other users view theirs. It seems like this is an oversight, as I cannot imagine someone intentionally choosing to make a distributed network with this sort of dependency and few to no open-to-the-public general-purpose pub / room servers to join.
date: 2023-01-31T22:06:14-05:00
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title: lnxw48a1: It was nice to see Ev Bogue in #Nostr Plebs “General” Space tonight. He was discussing lessons that Nostr could learn from #SSB. Unfortunately, I had to drop soon after he started, because of a phone call.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1108488
description: lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 25-Jan-2023 22:50:49 EST
encoded: It was nice to see Ev Bogue in #Nostr Plebs “General” Space tonight. He was discussing lessons that Nostr could learn from #SSB. Unfortunately, I had to drop soon after he started, because of a phone call.
date: 2023-01-25T22:50:49-05:00
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title: lnxw48a1: My only interaction with #SSB ( #Secure_ScuttleButt, not #Single_Sideband ) has been through #Manyverse, so take this with a grain of salt. That said, when I joined, you'd go to a list of "pubs" and copy an invitation code, so you could see and be seen by other people. Now, they're using (usually limited topic) "rooms", and most of the pubs are gone. The public rooms list is small. It makes it unattractive, because the only way for most people to participate is to host a room / pub server. As a result, I deleted Manyverse from my devices.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1108371
description: lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 22-Jan-2023 19:38:40 EST
encoded: My only interaction with #SSB ( #Secure_ScuttleButt, not #Single_Sideband ) has been through #Manyverse, so take this with a grain of salt. That said, when I joined, you'd go to a list of "pubs" and copy an invitation code, so you could see and be seen by other people. Now, they're using (usually limited topic) "rooms", and most of the pubs are gone. The public rooms list is small. It makes it unattractive, because the only way for most people to participate is to host a room / pub server. As a result, I deleted Manyverse from my devices.
date: 2023-01-22T19:38:40-05:00
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title: lnxw48a1: On my #Android tablet, ManyVerse ( an #SSB client ) complains that it can't connect to any pubs. I had it connected to multiple pubs, but they appear to have closed. I don't know if it is worth seeking out a new batch.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1106806
description: lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 13:42:00 EST
encoded: On my #Android tablet, ManyVerse ( an #SSB client ) complains that it can't connect to any pubs. I had it connected to multiple pubs, but they appear to have closed. I don't know if it is worth seeking out a new batch.
date: 2022-12-05T13:42:00-05:00
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title: lnxw48a1: #Manyverse ( #SSB client, for those who are familiar with #Secure_ScuttleButt ) is in its 3rd or 4th week of being unable to connect to a pub server (and thus, being unable to communicate at all).
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encoded: #Manyverse ( #SSB client, for those who are familiar with #Secure_ScuttleButt ) is in its 3rd or 4th week of being unable to connect to a pub server (and thus, being unable to communicate at all).
date: 2021-07-29T14:06:30-04:00
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title: lnxw48a1: #Manyverse ( mobile #SSB client ) is having another one of its “can’t connect to a pub server, so you’re basically operating standalone” periods. It seems the last successful connection was two weeks ago. I know one of Secure ScuttleButt’s features is not needing Internet at all, but if you’re not connecting via LAN occasionally, you need a way for #peer-to-peer software to bootstrap a pool of connections into the network overlay over the Internet. I think pubs (and the new implementation that is just getting started) are a sign that a P2P project is not designed for real life usage. I realize that many “Butts”, including the developers, are leftish anarchists, so when things work, they are able to discuss the dream world they hope to implement. But the majority of people are not breathing such rarified air, and #Secure_ScuttleButt needs to just work for regular people also. Probably needs some concepts from Jami … and to be implementable without using Node.js … which I’ve seen people saying is not currently possible. An aside: I do wonder whether it depends on peculiarities of #JavaScript or of #Node.JS itself. If the first is true, one may be able to implement SSB with #Deno or #JSI / #JSISH.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1075781
description: lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 18-Jul-2021 23:57:06 EDT
encoded: #Manyverse ( mobile #SSB client ) is having another one of its “can’t connect to a pub server, so you’re basically operating standalone” periods. It seems the last successful connection was two weeks ago. I know one of Secure ScuttleButt’s features is not needing Internet at all, but if you’re not connecting via LAN occasionally, you need a way for #peer-to-peer software to bootstrap a pool of connections into the network overlay over the Internet. I think pubs (and the new implementation that is just getting started) are a sign that a P2P project is not designed for real life usage. I realize that many “Butts”, including the developers, are leftish anarchists, so when things work, they are able to discuss the dream world they hope to implement. But the majority of people are not breathing such rarified air, and #Secure_ScuttleButt needs to just work for regular people also. Probably needs some concepts from Jami … and to be implementable without using Node.js … which I’ve seen people saying is not currently possible. An aside: I do wonder whether it depends on peculiarities of #JavaScript or of #Node.JS itself. If the first is true, one may be able to implement SSB with #Deno or #JSI / #JSISH.
date: 2021-07-18T23:57:06-04:00
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title: lnxw48a1: Opened the #Manyverse mobile #SSB client again today. I even replied to a couple of other posts. There are some people there who seem to be doing some pretty cool things. But overall, I think they are working toward a future that I would not want to experience.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1074711
description: lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 06-Jul-2021 02:07:41 EDT
encoded: Opened the #Manyverse mobile #SSB client again today. I even replied to a couple of other posts. There are some people there who seem to be doing some pretty cool things. But overall, I think they are working toward a future that I would not want to experience.
date: 2021-07-06T02:07:41-04:00
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lnxw48a1: Launched #Manyverse and it found a pub! Now connected to #SSB.
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encoded: Launched #Manyverse and it found a pub! Now connected to #SSB.
date: 2021-03-21T01:21:19-04:00
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title: bobjonkman: And I can't figure out how to connect to a particular server. The #Patchwork #SSB client I'm using has a "+ Join Server" field, but it requires an invitation code. Which I can't generate unless I have a pub server. Which I can't join until I have an invitation code... Sigh. #SSB: Concept: A+ ; Implementation: C+ ; Usability: F You'd think a communications platform would make it easier to connect to people you want to communicate with...
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1058313
description: bobjonkman's status on Saturday, 30-Jan-2021 16:31:06 EST
encoded: And I can't figure out how to connect to a particular server. The #Patchwork #SSB client I'm using has a "+ Join Server" field, but it requires an invitation code. Which I can't generate unless I have a pub server. Which I can't join until I have an invitation code... Sigh. #SSB: Concept: A+ ; Implementation: C+ ; Usability: F You'd think a communications platform would make it easier to connect to people you want to communicate with...
date: 2021-01-30T16:31:06-05:00
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title: lnxw48a1: @bobjonkman “There is no one in your community with that name.” I suspect that without pubs or direct LAN connections, it isn’t possible to use #SSB. I’ll see if I can connect to the same pub server that @storm is using: scuttlebutt.us ... though I’m already supposedly connected to a few others already.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1058249
description: lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 29-Jan-2021 18:41:52 EST
encoded: @bobjonkman “There is no one in your community with that name.” I suspect that without pubs or direct LAN connections, it isn’t possible to use #SSB. I’ll see if I can connect to the same pub server that @storm is using: scuttlebutt.us ... though I’m already supposedly connected to a few others already.
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title: lnxw48a1: @bobjonkman Yes, I haven't even gotten to building up much of a contact list, because even when it is working, discoverability is poor. It is bedtime here in #SoCal, but I'll try to connect on #SSB / #Manyverse tomorrow.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1058173
description: lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 29-Jan-2021 01:28:27 EST
encoded: @bobjonkman Yes, I haven't even gotten to building up much of a contact list, because even when it is working, discoverability is poor. It is bedtime here in #SoCal, but I'll try to connect on #SSB / #Manyverse tomorrow.
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title: bobjonkman: I was on #SSB Secure Scuttlebutt for a while (attended an #SSB seminar at last year's LibrePlanet conference), but the application was so resource intense that my laptop couldn't keep up. And, there wasn't the network effect I needed to make it useful. While there are probably interesting people to converse with, I have no idea how to find them. I just logged back into #SSB, my userID is @BobJonkman (of course); my public key is @aFhD6GhqLVTFFjIGiuKidbaRiU6nC6JeLLvUROLMkL8=.ed25519 Try sending me a private message, maybe that's the way to follow each other.
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encoded: I was on #SSB Secure Scuttlebutt for a while (attended an #SSB seminar at last year's LibrePlanet conference), but the application was so resource intense that my laptop couldn't keep up. And, there wasn't the network effect I needed to make it useful. While there are probably interesting people to converse with, I have no idea how to find them. I just logged back into #SSB, my userID is @BobJonkman (of course); my public key is @aFhD6GhqLVTFFjIGiuKidbaRiU6nC6JeLLvUROLMkL8=.ed25519 Try sending me a private message, maybe that's the way to follow each other.
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title: lnxw48a1: I think I’m going to go ahead and abandon #Manyverse / #SSB Secure Scuttlebutt. Multiple month-long or longer outages of the pub servers that are necessary if you’re not in the same LAN with other users means that the network is unreliable. There is zero chance that anyone I know in person would return after such long outages, so it is not ready.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1058091
description: lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 28-Jan-2021 13:11:27 EST
encoded: I think I’m going to go ahead and abandon #Manyverse / #SSB Secure Scuttlebutt. Multiple month-long or longer outages of the pub servers that are necessary if you’re not in the same LAN with other users means that the network is unreliable. There is zero chance that anyone I know in person would return after such long outages, so it is not ready.
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title: lnxw48a1: Another long outage where the #SSB (Secure Scuttlebutt, not Single Sideband) “pub” servers are unconnectable. Currently at three weeks. Now, I suppose, if there were other SSB / #Manyverse users on my local network, we could make use of it that way. But there aren’t, and the network is pretty useless without pubs. Scuttlebutt is a distributed socnet, but for most users, it is dependent on pub servers to do the connecting.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1057523
description: lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 23-Jan-2021 16:08:10 EST
encoded: Another long outage where the #SSB (Secure Scuttlebutt, not Single Sideband) “pub” servers are unconnectable. Currently at three weeks. Now, I suppose, if there were other SSB / #Manyverse users on my local network, we could make use of it that way. But there aren’t, and the network is pretty useless without pubs. Scuttlebutt is a distributed socnet, but for most users, it is dependent on pub servers to do the connecting.
date: 2021-01-23T16:08:10-05:00
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lnxw48a1: Looks like the Secure ScuttleButt #SSB pubs are again having issues. #Manyverse can’t complete a connection, so no incoming or outgoing messages.
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encoded: Looks like the Secure ScuttleButt #SSB pubs are again having issues. #Manyverse can’t complete a connection, so no incoming or outgoing messages.
date: 2020-12-12T22:17:04-05:00
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lnxw48a1: By the way, in my mind, #SSB stands for single sideband, a kind of radio modulation used by hams. If you’re the same, don’t let using the same hashtag for secure scuttlebutt throw you.
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encoded: By the way, in my mind, #SSB stands for single sideband, a kind of radio modulation used by hams. If you’re the same, don’t let using the same hashtag for secure scuttlebutt throw you.
date: 2020-11-29T00:57:14-05:00
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title: lnxw48a1: Seems like a number of “butts” (users of Secure ScuttleButt [ #SSB ] and related implementations) are participating in Circles. They’re posting their circles.garden profile links for contacts to establish trust. I think I’m going to stay far away from this.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1050359
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encoded: Seems like a number of “butts” (users of Secure ScuttleButt [ #SSB ] and related implementations) are participating in Circles. They’re posting their circles.garden profile links for contacts to establish trust. I think I’m going to stay far away from this.
date: 2020-11-29T00:49:46-05:00
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lnxw48a1: Good. I was seriously considering abandoning the #SSB (Secure ScuttleButt) network entirely.
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encoded: Good. I was seriously considering abandoning the #SSB (Secure ScuttleButt) network entirely.
date: 2020-11-12T01:01:27-05:00
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lnxw48a1: And #Manyverse ( #SSB client for #iOS and #Android ) is suddenly picking up incoming posts, at least on the iPad. I'll check the other tablet later.
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description: lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 11-Nov-2020 14:34:35 EST
encoded: And #Manyverse ( #SSB client for #iOS and #Android ) is suddenly picking up incoming posts, at least on the iPad. I'll check the other tablet later.
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title: lnxw48a1: #Matrix sharing their view on decentralized reputation as a spam and abuse prevention tool https://matrix.org/blog/2020/10/19/combating-abuse-in-matrix-without-backdoors There was a similar document shared on Secure Scuttlebutt ( #SSB ) / #Manyverse a while ago. I believe I linked the document, so search my history if you wish to compare. Frankly, I found the SSB document unworkable and error-prone, but this one sounds like it could work in some situations.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1045095
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encoded: #Matrix sharing their view on decentralized reputation as a spam and abuse prevention tool https://matrix.org/blog/2020/10/19/combating-abuse-in-matrix-without-backdoors There was a similar document shared on Secure Scuttlebutt ( #SSB ) / #Manyverse a while ago. I believe I linked the document, so search my history if you wish to compare. Frankly, I found the SSB document unworkable and error-prone, but this one sounds like it could work in some situations.
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title: lnxw48a1: In any case, the pub outage tells me that #SSB, in its current design, is unsuitable for connecting regular people together. Maybe I'll look at #Jami again to see whether it's made progress toward fixing its issues. Or #Tox, or #Briar.
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encoded: In any case, the pub outage tells me that #SSB, in its current design, is unsuitable for connecting regular people together. Maybe I'll look at #Jami again to see whether it's made progress toward fixing its issues. Or #Tox, or #Briar.
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title: lnxw48a1: So #Manyverse is a client for #SSB, the Secure Scuttlebutt protocol ( see https://scuttlebot.io/more/protocols/secure-scuttlebutt.html ). Read the link to see more about the protocol. At present, I think most implementations are based on Node.js. An important thing in SSB is "Pubs". The link above says this: > "Pubs" are bot-users that have public IPs. They follow users and rehost the messages to other peers, ensuring good uptime and no firewall blockage. > Pubs have no special privileges, and are not trusted by users. However, because Scuttlebot has no DHT or NAT-traversal utilities, users must "join" a Pub to distribute their messages on the WAN. Without a lot of active experience with SSB or its clients, it seems that pubs are a weak point and a centralizing influence. Sure, I could host a pub myself, but then I'd need to attract a good sized fraction of the overall SSB userbase, so that those connecting to my pub could find interesting users.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1043850
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encoded: So #Manyverse is a client for #SSB, the Secure Scuttlebutt protocol ( see https://scuttlebot.io/more/protocols/secure-scuttlebutt.html ). Read the link to see more about the protocol. At present, I think most implementations are based on Node.js. An important thing in SSB is "Pubs". The link above says this: > "Pubs" are bot-users that have public IPs. They follow users and rehost the messages to other peers, ensuring good uptime and no firewall blockage. > Pubs have no special privileges, and are not trusted by users. However, because Scuttlebot has no DHT or NAT-traversal utilities, users must "join" a Pub to distribute their messages on the WAN. Without a lot of active experience with SSB or its clients, it seems that pubs are a weak point and a centralizing influence. Sure, I could host a pub myself, but then I'd need to attract a good sized fraction of the overall SSB userbase, so that those connecting to my pub could find interesting users.
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title: lnxw48a1: I checked #Multiverse on #Android. Same issue. Cannot maintain a connection to a pub, so everything I can see is weeks old. I'll wait another week or two before I completely abandon it. I should write up my experience with the #SSB network. I'd heard so much about this wonder of #DCO (disconnected operation) and #P2P (peer-to-peer) that I think my expectations were too high.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1043544
description: lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 17-Oct-2020 12:35:47 EDT
encoded: I checked #Multiverse on #Android. Same issue. Cannot maintain a connection to a pub, so everything I can see is weeks old. I'll wait another week or two before I completely abandon it. I should write up my experience with the #SSB network. I'd heard so much about this wonder of #DCO (disconnected operation) and #P2P (peer-to-peer) that I think my expectations were too high.
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title: lnxw48a1: Hmm. Seems like #Manyverse on my iPad is having problems connecting to pubs. In particular “SSB PeerNet USW”. I should open it on the Android tablet and see whether that one is also having trouble connecting to the pubs it uses. Manyverse is a mobile client for the Secure ScuttleButt ( #SSB ) protocol.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1043414
description: lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 16-Oct-2020 20:28:18 EDT
encoded: Hmm. Seems like #Manyverse on my iPad is having problems connecting to pubs. In particular “SSB PeerNet USW”. I should open it on the Android tablet and see whether that one is also having trouble connecting to the pubs it uses. Manyverse is a mobile client for the Secure ScuttleButt ( #SSB ) protocol.
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title: lnxw48a1: I was using the #Manyverse #SSB client this morning. Saw a 'new here' post. Decided to reply. Four app crashes later, I gave up. . I'm not saying the app itself is bad. This particular tablet (Lenovo Tab 4) seems to be memory constrained. It is overdue for retirement.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1011515
description: lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 05-Jul-2020 12:23:27 EDT
encoded: I was using the #Manyverse #SSB client this morning. Saw a 'new here' post. Decided to reply. Four app crashes later, I gave up. . I'm not saying the app itself is bad. This particular tablet (Lenovo Tab 4) seems to be memory constrained. It is overdue for retirement.
date: 2020-07-05T12:23:27-04:00
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title: lnxw48a1: I'm not very conversational there. I pretty much just read others' posts. I rarely respond or post. #SSB seems to be a "refrigerator magnet" type of place. Let me explain that term. When #GD2 sends me some of her artwork, I stick one piece up on the fridge (using a magnet). That's "Look at what [my granddaughter] drew / colored / painted for me". So "refrigerator magnet" is hey, look at what I did.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1010690
description: lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 01-Jul-2020 19:21:07 EDT
encoded: I'm not very conversational there. I pretty much just read others' posts. I rarely respond or post. #SSB seems to be a "refrigerator magnet" type of place. Let me explain that term. When #GD2 sends me some of her artwork, I stick one piece up on the fridge (using a magnet). That's "Look at what [my granddaughter] drew / colored / painted for me". So "refrigerator magnet" is hey, look at what I did.
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title: lnxw48a1: I've been using #Manyverse ( #SSB software client ) on #iOS and #Android a little over the past couple of months. The only way to 'meet' people and make contacts is to join a pub. Copying a 'pub' invite and pasting it into the client is not easy. It took several tries on the Apple iPad, and was only possible by learning to trick the text selection function. On Android, there are some characters in the pub invite that can only be selected if you select all (grabs way more than what you want, leaving you to edit after pasting). I eventually resorted to copying the portion that selected easily, and manually entering the rest. Each device / installation gets its own individual identity hash. In your profile, you can attach a friendly name, which is displayed to others instead of the full identity hash. Don't try restoring a hash from one device onto another, because the #Secure_Scuttlebutt network seems to deliver everything to the first device and leave the second one alone. There seems to be a smallish set of users, many of whom are building SSB software, hosting pubs, and building similar #peer-to-peer ( #p2p ) networks. I am nowhere near an expert with it, and I generally only open the client about once per week. It usually takes a while to update, so at first, the old posts from a week before are all you see.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1010691
description: lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 01-Jul-2020 19:13:44 EDT
encoded: I've been using #Manyverse ( #SSB software client ) on #iOS and #Android a little over the past couple of months. The only way to 'meet' people and make contacts is to join a pub. Copying a 'pub' invite and pasting it into the client is not easy. It took several tries on the Apple iPad, and was only possible by learning to trick the text selection function. On Android, there are some characters in the pub invite that can only be selected if you select all (grabs way more than what you want, leaving you to edit after pasting). I eventually resorted to copying the portion that selected easily, and manually entering the rest. Each device / installation gets its own individual identity hash. In your profile, you can attach a friendly name, which is displayed to others instead of the full identity hash. Don't try restoring a hash from one device onto another, because the #Secure_Scuttlebutt network seems to deliver everything to the first device and leave the second one alone. There seems to be a smallish set of users, many of whom are building SSB software, hosting pubs, and building similar #peer-to-peer ( #p2p ) networks. I am nowhere near an expert with it, and I generally only open the client about once per week. It usually takes a while to update, so at first, the old posts from a week before are all you see.
date: 2020-07-01T19:13:44-04:00
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strypey: This animated video explains how Scuttlebutt works using a love story: https://vimeo.com/236358264#Scuttlebutt #SSB #video #animation
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encoded: This animated video explains how Scuttlebutt works using a love story: https://vimeo.com/236358264 #Scuttlebutt #SSB #video #animation
date: 2020-04-14T01:42:32-04:00
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title: lnxw48a1: I’ll have to read more about #Secure_Scuttlebutt to see whether #SSB is meant to allow the same userID across multiple devices. If I get a contact or join a ‘pub’ on one device, is that connection also available on the other?
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/975482
description: lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 20-Mar-2020 16:30:11 EDT
encoded: I’ll have to read more about #Secure_Scuttlebutt to see whether #SSB is meant to allow the same userID across multiple devices. If I get a contact or join a ‘pub’ on one device, is that connection also available on the other?
date: 2020-03-20T16:30:11-04:00
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lnxw48a1: Manyverse (an #SSB client for Android and iOS) is crashy on both mobile operating systems.
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encoded: Manyverse (an #SSB client for Android and iOS) is crashy on both mobile operating systems.
date: 2020-03-20T16:16:59-04:00
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title: lnxw48a1: Discovered #disaster.radio on #F-Droid. https://disaster.radio/ Related to #SecureScuttleButt ( #SSB ), solar-powered network for use during catastrophic events. I don't think they're ready for real-world use yet.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/969221
description: lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 02-Mar-2020 20:39:21 EST
encoded: Discovered #disaster.radio on #F-Droid. https://disaster.radio/ Related to #SecureScuttleButt ( #SSB ), solar-powered network for use during catastrophic events. I don't think they're ready for real-world use yet.
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/103311804878236357
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title: strypey: @noorul AFAIK #SSB doesn't use a #blockchain. It uses a #DHT. There is a long list of social media apps that use blockchains (#Twister being the oldest I know if): https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/wikis/blockchain-social-appsI don't think #Scuttlebutt is one of them.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/940432
description: strypey's status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2019 07:30:38 EST
encoded: @noorul AFAIK #SSB doesn't use a #blockchain. It uses a #DHT. There is a long list of social media apps that use blockchains (#Twister being the oldest I know if): https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/wikis/blockchain-social-apps I don't think #Scuttlebutt is one of them.
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/102405186168282476
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title: strypey: @dredmorbius with #Scuttlebutt everyone gets what they subscribe to. That's it. If you want to send Y over #SSB, you have to get users to subscribe to it *personally*, not just get admins to federate with it, in case it also contains some X some of their users might want in their timeline. If nobody subscribes to it, it doesn't get propagated. People running #SSB "pubs" can accept or reject a user, but they are not acting a sole gatekeeper for a captive market of users as instances do. @clacke
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/848490
description: strypey's status on Monday, 08-Jul-2019 05:45:34 EDT
encoded: @dredmorbius with #Scuttlebutt everyone gets what they subscribe to. That's it. If you want to send Y over #SSB, you have to get users to subscribe to it *personally*, not just get admins to federate with it, in case it also contains some X some of their users might want in their timeline. If nobody subscribes to it, it doesn't get propagated. People running #SSB "pubs" can accept or reject a user, but they are not acting a sole gatekeeper for a captive market of users as instances do. @clacke
date: 2019-07-08T05:45:34-04:00
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/101863848826693646
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title: strypey: @paulfree14 hmm. The Firewall does a pretty good job of censoring all the sites that talk about or private VPNs or encrypted communication. I'm not aware of anything specific that's available on these topics from mainland China without a VPN. GH is available here, as is GitLab, so maybe one could search them for some #AwesomeLists, or try tools like #Lantern? Tools that use protocols like #SSB, #Serval, or #Briar that don't need the net to share data between devices could also be useful.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/795527
description: strypey's status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2019 15:16:22 EDT
encoded: @paulfree14 hmm. The Firewall does a pretty good job of censoring all the sites that talk about or private VPNs or encrypted communication. I'm not aware of anything specific that's available on these topics from mainland China without a VPN. GH is available here, as is GitLab, so maybe one could search them for some #AwesomeLists, or try tools like #Lantern? Tools that use protocols like #SSB, #Serval, or #Briar that don't need the net to share data between devices could also be useful.
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title: thurloat: Getting together with some folks to work on some #ssb projects! Set up a pub, viewer, and git-ssb today so we're not freeloading on the kindness of others.viewer: https://decentralized.with.parts/channel/ssbgit-ssb: https://build.with.parts/%25o+hl6YsjW9xTi0ywny1C+Um%2FYS4zKIzr8X9gHMK2Nms=.sha256pub: pub.decentralized.with.parts (@fqaUNltSCZmr5Sf7mNmd+nTt66UjaRFXhSa7LTIQ8B8=.ed25519) let me know if you want an invite, I'll be setting up a landing page shortly.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/786176
description: thurloat's status on Sunday, 24-Mar-2019 23:11:51 EDT
encoded: Getting together with some folks to work on some #ssb projects! Set up a pub, viewer, and git-ssb today so we're not freeloading on the kindness of others. viewer: https://decentralized.with.parts/channel/ssb git-ssb: https://build.with.parts/%25o+hl6YsjW9xTi0ywny1C+Um%2FYS4zKIzr8X9gHMK2Nms=.sha256 pub: pub.decentralized.with.parts (@fqaUNltSCZmr5Sf7mNmd+nTt66UjaRFXhSa7LTIQ8B8=.ed25519) let me know if you want an invite, I'll be setting up a landing page shortly.
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title: raucao: Stumbled upon this blog post about the potential benefits of using different decentralized protocols in combination, e.g. #SSB, #Dat, and #ActivityPub: https://blog.datproject.org/2019/03/22/three-protocols-and-a-future-of-the-decentralized-internet/
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/784532
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encoded: Stumbled upon this blog post about the potential benefits of using different decentralized protocols in combination, e.g. #SSB, #Dat, and #ActivityPub: https://blog.datproject.org/2019/03/22/three-protocols-and-a-future-of-the-decentralized-internet/
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Three protocols and a future of the decentralized internet
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/101731857541412777
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title: strypey: From the #SSB principles stack 1/2: "Tending and pruning are not a stranger's duty, it is through near moderation and free listening that we improve our surroundings. Infrastructure is a voluntary act, multimodal welcoming is how we on-board people via diverse connectivity modes (technological acts of inclusion) as well as with greetings (words of inclusion)." https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/principles/
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/773637
description: strypey's status on Monday, 11-Mar-2019 07:49:15 EDT
encoded: From the #SSB principles stack 1/2: "Tending and pruning are not a stranger's duty, it is through near moderation and free listening that we improve our surroundings. Infrastructure is a voluntary act, multimodal welcoming is how we on-board people via diverse connectivity modes (technological acts of inclusion) as well as with greetings (words of inclusion)." https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/principles/
date: 2019-03-11T07:49:15-04:00
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reply of: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/773634
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principles
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/101731856596217685
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title: strypey: From the #SSB principles stack 1/2: "We acknowledge the natural, the virtual, and the social environments. Our responsibility is to recognize which resources are abundant, which are sufficient, and adapt accordingly through efficiency.Technology is simply the means by which we communicate. We use local-first publishing so that each person owns their words and actions. Our solutions are piecemeal upgradeable, replaceable and incrementally improvable." https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/principles/
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/773634
description: strypey's status on Monday, 11-Mar-2019 07:49:01 EDT
encoded: From the #SSB principles stack 1/2: "We acknowledge the natural, the virtual, and the social environments. Our responsibility is to recognize which resources are abundant, which are sufficient, and adapt accordingly through efficiency. Technology is simply the means by which we communicate. We use local-first publishing so that each person owns their words and actions. Our solutions are piecemeal upgradeable, replaceable and incrementally improvable." https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/principles/
date: 2019-03-11T07:49:01-04:00
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xvu: #ssb ID for the folks that are on there as well: @JUBGIPQ3KzZEqc03FX53bZucL9i/UqgHQgpPyJHPzpw=.ed25519
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link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/763178
description: xvu's status on Friday, 22-Feb-2019 15:37:57 EST
encoded: #ssb ID for the folks that are on there as well: @JUBGIPQ3KzZEqc03FX53bZucL9i/UqgHQgpPyJHPzpw=.ed25519
date: 2019-02-22T15:37:57-05:00
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title: thurloat: VM with #SSB running ran out of disk space, holy cow.Is there a pruning / automated cleanup that should be done?I wonder if it can be pushed to a server, and use some sort of proxy to connect via thinner client
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/761189
description: thurloat's status on Tuesday, 19-Feb-2019 15:16:48 EST
encoded: VM with #SSB running ran out of disk space, holy cow. Is there a pruning / automated cleanup that should be done? I wonder if it can be pushed to a server, and use some sort of proxy to connect via thinner client
date: 2019-02-19T15:16:48-05:00
creator: thurloat 📌
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licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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https://mastodon.at/users/switchingsocial/statuses/101411354272243633
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title: switchingsocial: #Manyverse is an Android app for the #Scuttlebutt social network:https://www.manyver.seUnlike traditional social networks, Scuttlebutt has no servers. Members store all their personal data on their own computer or phone, and connect directly to their friends' devices in order to update statuses. Scuttlebutt also works offline.It's currently available on @fdroidorg and Google Play. (Note it's still in beta and many features are missing.)#AlternativesAtoZ #SSB #OffTheGrid #SocialNetworks
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/746053
description: switchingsocial's status on Sunday, 13-Jan-2019 16:21:03 EST
encoded: #Manyverse is an Android app for the #Scuttlebutt social network: https://www.manyver.se Unlike traditional social networks, Scuttlebutt has no servers. Members store all their personal data on their own computer or phone, and connect directly to their friends' devices in order to update statuses. Scuttlebutt also works offline. It's currently available on @fdroidorg and Google Play. (Note it's still in beta and many features are missing.) #AlternativesAtoZ #SSB #OffTheGrid #SocialNetworks
date: 2019-01-13T16:21:03-05:00
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licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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title: thurloat: @ng0 IMO scuttlebutt / #ssb fits that usecase really well. You can thread together progress updates on projects, and have people involved/commenting/interacting in each log.If you want a dedicated URI you can host a web proxy as well for your own content and customize the formatting however you like.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/732045
description: thurloat's status on Tuesday, 08-Jan-2019 18:40:37 EST
encoded: @ng0 IMO scuttlebutt / #ssb fits that usecase really well. You can thread together progress updates on projects, and have people involved/commenting/interacting in each log. If you want a dedicated URI you can host a web proxy as well for your own content and customize the formatting however you like.
date: 2019-01-08T18:40:37-05:00
creator: thurloat 📌
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licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
has discussion: https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/346515
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/101368879357597331
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title: strypey: @bhaugen #SSB, like any distributed/ #P2P system, is perhaps more structurally resistant to capitalist domination than server-client systems based on publishing stuff to the web. But for many of the same reasons, it's much harder for Jo User to understand and use (and the #fediverse is already harder than #DataFarms). I mean, I haven't figured out how to install an SSB client myself yet ;-)
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/730697
description: strypey's status on Sunday, 06-Jan-2019 04:19:07 EST
encoded: @bhaugen #SSB, like any distributed/ #P2P system, is perhaps more structurally resistant to capitalist domination than server-client systems based on publishing stuff to the web. But for many of the same reasons, it's much harder for Jo User to understand and use (and the #fediverse is already harder than #DataFarms). I mean, I haven't figured out how to install an SSB client myself yet ;-)
date: 2019-01-06T04:19:07-05:00
creator: Strypey
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licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
has discussion: https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/323110
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/101277518253174439
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title: strypey: @freakazoid I'm a bit sceptical of #SSB given its strong dependencies on the Nodejs and NPM ecosystem. BitMessage reference implementation is in Python which seems much more "mature" than using web technologies with huge security flaws for a non-web network.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/719912
description: strypey's status on Friday, 21-Dec-2018 01:04:48 EST
encoded: @freakazoid I'm a bit sceptical of #SSB given its strong dependencies on the Nodejs and NPM ecosystem. BitMessage reference implementation is in Python which seems much more "mature" than using web technologies with huge security flaws for a non-web network.
date: 2018-12-21T01:04:48-05:00
creator: Strypey
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licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
has discussion: https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/339813
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/101277513479181959
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title: strypey: @freakazoid I'm a bit sceptical of #SSB given its strong dependencies on the Nodejs and NPM ecosystem. BitMessage reference implementation is in Python which seems much more "mature" than using web technologies with huge security flaws for a non-web network.
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/719911
description: strypey's status on Friday, 21-Dec-2018 01:03:35 EST
encoded: @freakazoid I'm a bit sceptical of #SSB given its strong dependencies on the Nodejs and NPM ecosystem. BitMessage reference implementation is in Python which seems much more "mature" than using web technologies with huge security flaws for a non-web network.
date: 2018-12-21T01:03:35-05:00
creator: Strypey
has creator: acct
licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
has discussion: https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/339813
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https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/101234865685296458
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title: strypey: @xj9 BTW I'm a keen tester of bleeding edge apps and I haven't tried #SSB yet, because I can't install it on a 32-bit PC without going through the valley of the shadow of death that is #NPM. If there's one thing I agree with Drew about, it's that choosing the right tools for the job matters. Like folks building #Electron apps, I think Dominic chose the wrong tools. Until that's fixed, SSB will remain a promising concept, but far from being ready for primetime. @alcinnz @Wolf480pl
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/713817
description: strypey's status on Thursday, 13-Dec-2018 12:17:41 EST
encoded: @xj9 BTW I'm a keen tester of bleeding edge apps and I haven't tried #SSB yet, because I can't install it on a 32-bit PC without going through the valley of the shadow of death that is #NPM. If there's one thing I agree with Drew about, it's that choosing the right tools for the job matters. Like folks building #Electron apps, I think Dominic chose the wrong tools. Until that's fixed, SSB will remain a promising concept, but far from being ready for primetime. @alcinnz @Wolf480pl
date: 2018-12-13T12:17:41-05:00
creator: Strypey
has creator: acct
licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
reply of: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/713809
has discussion: https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/336936
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clacke: ♲ @xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org: starting up a new #ssb pub for #solarpunk folks specifically dm for invite
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link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/694252
description: clacke's status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 01:25:29 EST
encoded: ♲ @xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org: starting up a new #ssb pub for #solarpunk folks specifically dm for invite
date: 2018-11-24T01:25:29-05:00
creator: clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛
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https://glitch.social/users/gcupc/statuses/100990788706374803
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title: gcupc: I completely non-ironically miss #Usenet, and wish it were still suited to be my primary online social network. Even the implementation was fundamentally better than either the #fediverse or #ssb.The only thing I don't think was a good idea in retrospect was the global namespace of groups. (Of course, it lacked security and antispam features we'd expect today, but the worthwhile ones could pretty trivially be added.)
link: https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/671982
description: gcupc's status on Wednesday, 31-Oct-2018 10:45:42 EDT
encoded: I completely non-ironically miss #Usenet, and wish it were still suited to be my primary online social network. Even the implementation was fundamentally better than either the #fediverse or #ssb. The only thing I don't think was a good idea in retrospect was the global namespace of groups. (Of course, it lacked security and antispam features we'd expect today, but the worthwhile ones could pretty trivially be added.)
date: 2018-10-31T10:45:42-04:00
creator: GCU Prosthetic Conscience
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licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
has discussion: https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/317144
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Bob Jonkman
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