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lnxw48a1: @simsa04 I do not know of any such service for #GNUsocial. There are a few very old web-based quick installers from the #StatusNet days, but even then they weren't much better than getting a VPS and installing by hand, because as soon as you wanted to change something, you needed to use ssh, the command line, and edit config files. If you still have contact with Lohan G, the artist from Sri Lanka, he hosted an instance somewhere, maybe he has ideas and warnings that would help. Last I knew, @lohang .
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 14:50:07 EDT
@simsa04 I do not know of any such service for #GNUsocial. There are a few very old web-based quick installers from the #StatusNet days, but even then they weren't much better than getting a VPS and installing by hand, because as soon as you wanted to change something, you needed to use ssh, the command line, and edit config files. If you still have contact with Lohan G, the artist from Sri Lanka, he hosted an instance somewhere, maybe he has ideas and warnings that would help. Last I knew, @lohang .
bobjonkman: I seem to recall there's a standard API that should be common to all the #StatusNet derivitave servers. I'm pretty sure that in its infancy Mastodon conformed to that API. But Mastodon's API expanded beyond that, and I suspect some of the common API was removed, probably around the time #OStatus was dropped from Mastodon too. But that's sheer speculation on my part. Time to upgrade my server, so I can upgrade PHP, so I can upgrade this GNUsocial instance...
bobjonkman's status on Saturday, 14-Jan-2023 16:08:16 EST
I seem to recall there's a standard API that should be common to all the #StatusNet derivitave servers. I'm pretty sure that in its infancy Mastodon conformed to that API. But Mastodon's API expanded beyond that, and I suspect some of the common API was removed, probably around the time #OStatus was dropped from Mastodon too. But that's sheer speculation on my part. Time to upgrade my server, so I can upgrade PHP, so I can upgrade this GNUsocial instance...
lnxw48a1: https://github.com/foocorp/hacienda > We made GNU social which had its part in starting the Fediverse! GNU social was a spin-off from GNU FM, which was the software we made to run Libre.fm -- Libre.fm has been federated for a very, very long time. I’m not sure when FooCorp’s GS project started, but the ##Fediverse predates the merger of #StatusNet, #FreeSocial, and #GNUsocial into the modern GS project. Y’all have some historical accomplishments already, so there’s no need to overinflate your role.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 12:50:52 EST
https://github.com/foocorp/hacienda > We made GNU social which had its part in starting the Fediverse! GNU social was a spin-off from GNU FM, which was the software we made to run Libre.fm -- Libre.fm has been federated for a very, very long time. I’m not sure when FooCorp’s GS project started, but the ##Fediverse predates the merger of #StatusNet, #FreeSocial, and #GNUsocial into the modern GS project. Y’all have some historical accomplishments already, so there’s no need to overinflate your role.
GitHub - foocorp/hacienda: The Hacienda must be built
lnxw48a1: One thing about this surge of people migrating from #Twitter to the #Fediverse is that people who gave up on #federated #socnets years ago and solely used #corpocentric platforms are now coming back. Thus, I get announcements about people I knew from #Tent (thanks to fellow former Tentler @bthall) along with news about people from #Identi.ca and other #StatusNet and #Pump.io instances returning.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 27-Dec-2022 14:25:03 EST
One thing about this surge of people migrating from #Twitter to the #Fediverse is that people who gave up on #federated #socnets years ago and solely used #corpocentric platforms are now coming back. Thus, I get announcements about people I knew from #Tent (thanks to fellow former Tentler @bthall) along with news about people from #Identi.ca and other #StatusNet and #Pump.io instances returning.
lnxw48a1: I actually think that the overwhelming majority of blocking should be done by individuals curating their own timelines. I am sensitive to the effect on the Fediverse as a whole, especially as we've already been through this. Even the original #bifurcation (when the largest instance at the time, Identica, severed communication with #StatusNet / #GNUsocial & #OStatus and switched to the #Pump.io protocol and software) and the subsequent #ActivityPub - #OStatus split have caused untold breakage. I've seen AP-side devs, admins, users patting themselves on the back while commiserating about brokenness that is built into the protocol itself or at least its common implementations. I have also seen people telling other people to create "alts" on various instances, so that their posts can reach all of their intended contacts. Not for resilience against instance shutdowns or separating by posts and recipients by topics and interests (which is what groups and Diaspora style Aspects / GPlus style Circles are for), but because #blockwars prevents posts and members from one instance to be seen on certain others. For the record, I think that instance governance is something that Mastodon should include in its instances.social instance-picker, along with instances' topical foci. People should have a way to see what they're agreeing to (and what the alternatives are) before the sign up. In other words, it isn't my way or the highway so much as it is making it possible to know what one is getting into. I am certain that there are (or were) instances with democratically chosen rules. I also believe that we're not doing the people who use an instance any favor by not making it possible for them to contribute to the financing and administration of the instance. If you're paying all the costs and doing all the work to maintain and moderate the instance, it is difficult to let an election institute a policy that you disagree with. (I've started to really disagree with the idea of individuals hosting public instances wholly out of their own financial and time resources. Besides the "truck factor", it is much easier to keep an instance going if everything was already handled by a team and at least partly member supported.) On the other hand, if the instance encourages those in its membership who can do so to participate in keeping it going, then it is perfectly reasonable to expect the admin team to carry out the decisions voted by the membership. I do realize that not everyone can contribute funds, nor can everyone do the technical labor ... but as @simsa04 will remember, things like writing documentation, contributing in discussions about improving the software, designing and implementing themes, and even marketing-type tasks such as creating a logo and a favicon or promoting the instance to people outside the #Fediverse are beneficial.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 00:26:23 EDT
I actually think that the overwhelming majority of blocking should be done by individuals curating their own timelines. I am sensitive to the effect on the Fediverse as a whole, especially as we've already been through this. Even the original #bifurcation (when the largest instance at the time, Identica, severed communication with #StatusNet / #GNUsocial & #OStatus and switched to the #Pump.io protocol and software) and the subsequent #ActivityPub - #OStatus split have caused untold breakage. I've seen AP-side devs, admins, users patting themselves on the back while commiserating about brokenness that is built into the protocol itself or at least its common implementations. I have also seen people telling other people to create "alts" on various instances, so that their posts can reach all of their intended contacts. Not for resilience against instance shutdowns or separating by posts and recipients by topics and interests (which is what groups and Diaspora style Aspects / GPlus style Circles are for), but because #blockwars prevents posts and members from one instance to be seen on certain others. For the record, I think that instance governance is something that Mastodon should include in its instances.social instance-picker, along with instances' topical foci. People should have a way to see what they're agreeing to (and what the alternatives are) before the sign up. In other words, it isn't my way or the highway so much as it is making it possible to know what one is getting into. I am certain that there are (or were) instances with democratically chosen rules. I also believe that we're not doing the people who use an instance any favor by not making it possible for them to contribute to the financing and administration of the instance. If you're paying all the costs and doing all the work to maintain and moderate the instance, it is difficult to let an election institute a policy that you disagree with. (I've started to really disagree with the idea of individuals hosting public instances wholly out of their own financial and time resources. Besides the "truck factor", it is much easier to keep an instance going if everything was already handled by a team and at least partly member supported.) On the other hand, if the instance encourages those in its membership who can do so to participate in keeping it going, then it is perfectly reasonable to expect the admin team to carry out the decisions voted by the membership. I do realize that not everyone can contribute funds, nor can everyone do the technical labor ... but as @simsa04 will remember, things like writing documentation, contributing in discussions about improving the software, designing and implementing themes, and even marketing-type tasks such as creating a logo and a favicon or promoting the instance to people outside the #Fediverse are beneficial.
hypolite: Because I could I keep thinking about a couple #Twitter threads criticizing #Mastodon (the #Fediverse, really) for being inherently different than closed commercial platforms using far-fetched hypotheticals and extraordinary occurrences; while I do not want to make a useless point-by-point response, instead I'll tell you what I like about federated social media and #Friendica in particular. After #Facebook froze my account for using a pseudonym (a spottily enforced rule), I started hosting my own #Diaspora pod because I could. I didn't know anyone so I initially made contacts with other podmins and progressively extended my circle through shared posts. This is how I learned about #Friendica, a platform that was compatible with both #Diaspora and #OStatus (#GNUSocial, #StatusNet ) because it could. Written in #PHP, liked both the multi-protocol approach and that I could contribute code to it. So I started hosting my #Friendica node and I kept following the same Diaspora accounts, because I could. When #Mastodon was first released based on OStatus, I started following several accounts on there because I could. When #ActivityPub was released and supported by Mastodon, we followed suite a few months later, because we could. With popularity came the right-wing trolls and free speech extremists who organized their own federated instances, but they never bothered me much as I blocked their entire instance domains because I could. None of these are currently possible with commercial platforms. Not all people will end up hosting their own node and it's fine, but the breadth of possibility is what makes federated social network attractive.
hypolite's status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 18:01:20 EDT
Because I could I keep thinking about a couple #Twitter threads criticizing #Mastodon (the #Fediverse, really) for being inherently different than closed commercial platforms using far-fetched hypotheticals and extraordinary occurrences; while I do not want to make a useless point-by-point response, instead I'll tell you what I like about federated social media and #Friendica in particular. After #Facebook froze my account for using a pseudonym (a spottily enforced rule), I started hosting my own #Diaspora pod because I could. I didn't know anyone so I initially made contacts with other podmins and progressively extended my circle through shared posts. This is how I learned about #Friendica, a platform that was compatible with both #Diaspora and #OStatus (#GNUSocial, #StatusNet ) because it could. Written in #PHP, liked both the multi-protocol approach and that I could contribute code to it. So I started hosting my #Friendica node and I kept following the same Diaspora accounts, because I could. When #Mastodon was first released based on OStatus, I started following several accounts on there because I could. When #ActivityPub was released and supported by Mastodon, we followed suite a few months later, because we could. With popularity came the right-wing trolls and free speech extremists who organized their own federated instances, but they never bothered me much as I blocked their entire instance domains because I could. None of these are currently possible with commercial platforms. Not all people will end up hosting their own node and it's fine, but the breadth of possibility is what makes federated social network attractive.
lnxw48a1: History of #Laconica, #StatusNet, #GnuSocial ... and the beginning of #PostActiv https://social.umeahackerspace.se/conversation/455000
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 04-Nov-2020 22:53:16 EST
History of #Laconica, #StatusNet, #GnuSocial ... and the beginning of #PostActiv https://social.umeahackerspace.se/conversation/455000
lnxw48a1: By the way, @tobias, I think your #Textile plugin for #StatusNet was the basis for @chimo's #Markdown plugin for #GNUsocial.
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 02-Jul-2020 12:04:03 EDT
By the way, @tobias, I think your #Textile plugin for #StatusNet was the basis for @chimo's #Markdown plugin for #GNUsocial.
lnxw48a1: Getting ready to shut down the #VPS that I used for my first self-hosted #StatusNet instance and my first self-hosted #Friendica instance.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2019 00:06:17 EDT
Getting ready to shut down the #VPS that I used for my first self-hosted #StatusNet instance and my first self-hosted #Friendica instance.
lnxw37a2: In the old days ... that is, in the year or two before and after #StatusNet ended and #GNU_Social began (and the bifurcation of one #OStatus network into two networks that couldn't talk to one another) a number of left-leaning projects joined the #Fediverse, seeing it as a way to help solve whatever issue they were working on. Projects in Spain, in France, in South America. And of course, Sweden's EKK and their Qvitter project & Quitter instance. Of these, Qvitter/Quitter lasted longest. What really surprised me is that few right-leaning and even fewer religious-based groups joined back then. Even then, having views that are not far-left was frowned on by the big #corpocentric sites. Believing that some deity exists and that your views and actions should be influenced by that is even more actively opposed by the big sites than rightist views. But even then, the left wingers weren't harassing those who just wanted a space to hang out or the occasional right winger who stumbled into the network. I really need to try to sort out my memories of the Fediverse since I joined Identica in 2009 and publish my own history article. So many of the ones I've seen leave out things I found important, or focus on political things that are only tangential to the overall story. I think many of the mistakes that Evan initially made in 2006-2007 have been repeated by everyone in this space, which is why so many anti-federation proposals are strongly argued for by people who have not been here for a decade.
lnxw37a2's status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 16:41:45 EDT
In the old days ... that is, in the year or two before and after #StatusNet ended and #GNU_Social began (and the bifurcation of one #OStatus network into two networks that couldn't talk to one another) a number of left-leaning projects joined the #Fediverse, seeing it as a way to help solve whatever issue they were working on. Projects in Spain, in France, in South America. And of course, Sweden's EKK and their Qvitter project & Quitter instance. Of these, Qvitter/Quitter lasted longest. What really surprised me is that few right-leaning and even fewer religious-based groups joined back then. Even then, having views that are not far-left was frowned on by the big #corpocentric sites. Believing that some deity exists and that your views and actions should be influenced by that is even more actively opposed by the big sites than rightist views. But even then, the left wingers weren't harassing those who just wanted a space to hang out or the occasional right winger who stumbled into the network. I really need to try to sort out my memories of the Fediverse since I joined Identica in 2009 and publish my own history article. So many of the ones I've seen leave out things I found important, or focus on political things that are only tangential to the overall story. I think many of the mistakes that Evan initially made in 2006-2007 have been repeated by everyone in this space, which is why so many anti-federation proposals are strongly argued for by people who have not been here for a decade.
lnxw37a2: @ffs @moonman @coldacid @dielan @dude @sim @thatbrickster I don't think politicizing the #Fediverse is what Feld is getting at. He's saying that people are starting to pay attention, but the AP implementations still lack features they use on #corpocentric sites. Note that everything proposed was in #StatusNet a decade ago. Some was stripped out a few years back, but I can still do calendar events and communicate with PuSH-enabled blogs from #GNU_Social today.
lnxw37a2's status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 14:13:53 EDT
@ffs @moonman @coldacid @dielan @dude @sim @thatbrickster I don't think politicizing the #Fediverse is what Feld is getting at. He's saying that people are starting to pay attention, but the AP implementations still lack features they use on #corpocentric sites. Note that everything proposed was in #StatusNet a decade ago. Some was stripped out a few years back, but I can still do calendar events and communicate with PuSH-enabled blogs from #GNU_Social today.
hoergen: (english/deutsch) Help wanted / Bitte um Hilfe (english) I try to create an overview of the features of the different federated platforms and which communication protocols they are capable of. Or add another platform (with sources) that can "speak" the communication protocol that is mentioned on the sheet. Once it's finished it will be available for everybody. github.com/hoergen/besser-der-… (deutsch) Ich versuche eine Übersicht von Featuren der verschiedenen föderierten Plattformen zund deren verfügbare Kommunikationsprotokolle zu erstellen. Oder fügt eine Plattform (mit Quellen) hinzu, die hier nicht aufgeführt ist, die die entsprechenden Kommunikationsprotokolle "spricht". Wenn es dann fertig ist, stelle ich es natürlich allen zur Verfügung. github.com/hoergen/besser-der-… Please comment like (use the green fields) / Bitte folgendermaßen kommentieren (die grünen Felder benutzen) 1b=x 5e1=x 6i1=x 2a1=blank horche.demkontinuum.de/photos/… #help #hilfe #federation #fediverse #friendica #mastodon #pleroma #socialhome #ganggo #Misskey #Gnusocial #Funkwhale #Peertube #pixelfed #hubzilla #Osada #Mediagobblin #nextcloud #plume #postactiv #prismo #wordpress #WriteFreely #Statusnet #Diaspora
hoergen's status on Monday, 25-Feb-2019 15:55:22 EST
(english/deutsch) Help wanted / Bitte um Hilfe (english) I try to create an overview of the features of the different federated platforms and which communication protocols they are capable of. Or add another platform (with sources) that can "speak" the communication protocol that is mentioned on the sheet. Once it's finished it will be available for everybody. github.com/hoergen/besser-der-… (deutsch) Ich versuche eine Übersicht von Featuren der verschiedenen föderierten Plattformen zund deren verfügbare Kommunikationsprotokolle zu erstellen. Oder fügt eine Plattform (mit Quellen) hinzu, die hier nicht aufgeführt ist, die die entsprechenden Kommunikationsprotokolle "spricht". Wenn es dann fertig ist, stelle ich es natürlich allen zur Verfügung. github.com/hoergen/besser-der-… Please comment like (use the green fields) / Bitte folgendermaßen kommentieren (die grünen Felder benutzen) 1b=x 5e1=x 6i1=x 2a1=blank horche.demkontinuum.de/photos/… #help #hilfe #federation #fediverse #friendica #mastodon #pleroma #socialhome #ganggo #Misskey #Gnusocial #Funkwhale #Peertube #pixelfed #hubzilla #Osada #Mediagobblin #nextcloud #plume #postactiv #prismo #wordpress #WriteFreely #Statusnet #Diaspora
lnxw48a1: @infernalturtle I think they are still around. I don't know if they can still federate with the outside world. AFAIK, they were still using custom-themed #StatusNet.
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 08-Feb-2019 19:57:32 EST
@infernalturtle I think they are still around. I don't know if they can still federate with the outside world. AFAIK, they were still using custom-themed #StatusNet.
lnxw37a2: The subject field was implemented, but AFAIR, it did not propagate to other instances. I don't know whether it was a plugin or a switch, but I do recall turning it off on an earlier #Federati instance because it only displayed on the posting instance. As for "Private" posts, GS used to have a private post mode (using advisory privacy) ... but it was removed because people thought it was really private, but it was leaky at best. And yes, the private posts were federated across #OStatus. When I hear about all the "new" halfway-working things in #ActivityPub, almost all of them were tried and discarded in #StatusNet / #GNU_Social before #Mastodon existed.
lnxw37a2's status on Tuesday, 01-Jan-2019 09:31:43 EST
The subject field was implemented, but AFAIR, it did not propagate to other instances. I don't know whether it was a plugin or a switch, but I do recall turning it off on an earlier #Federati instance because it only displayed on the posting instance. As for "Private" posts, GS used to have a private post mode (using advisory privacy) ... but it was removed because people thought it was really private, but it was leaky at best. And yes, the private posts were federated across #OStatus. When I hear about all the "new" halfway-working things in #ActivityPub, almost all of them were tried and discarded in #StatusNet / #GNU_Social before #Mastodon existed.
strypey: @lj_writes I agree with Mike here, AP provides for many functions that aren't yet implemented across all the #fediverse apps, because they couldn't be federated under #OStatus (the older standard #Mastodon adopted from #StatusNet / #GNUsocial) or choices were made not to use them (eg groups in Mastodon). @mike can you recommend the DW crew a more general resource on implementing AP than the Mastodon one they are looking at?
strypey's status on Tuesday, 18-Dec-2018 01:28:52 EST
@lj_writes I agree with Mike here, AP provides for many functions that aren't yet implemented across all the #fediverse apps, because they couldn't be federated under #OStatus (the older standard #Mastodon adopted from #StatusNet / #GNUsocial) or choices were made not to use them (eg groups in Mastodon). @mike can you recommend the DW crew a more general resource on implementing AP than the Mastodon one they are looking at?
sdf: wow! SDF #mastodon is officially bigger than SDF Public Access UNIX System! We never got this far with #diaspora #elgg #StatusNet #gnusocial or even #usenet Is today the day that you stop cross posting from Twitter and start cross posting from #Mastodon 🍰 🎉 🐱 #thankyou eugen@Gargron＠mastodon.social⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀@ap.uwu.st
sdf's status on Saturday, 10-Nov-2018 18:31:51 EST
wow! SDF #mastodon is officially bigger than SDF Public Access UNIX System! We never got this far with #diaspora #elgg #StatusNet #gnusocial or even #usenet Is today the day that you stop cross posting from Twitter and start cross posting from #Mastodon 🍰 🎉 🐱 #thankyou eugen @Gargron＠mastodon.social⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀@ap.uwu.st
bobjonkman: And if it's not possible to run !GNUsocial or #StatusNet on #PHP7, whether it's possible to run #Apache with #PHP7 in one virtual server, and #PHP5 in another...
bobjonkman's status on Friday, 09-Nov-2018 21:46:22 EST
And if it's not possible to run !GNUsocial or #StatusNet on #PHP7, whether it's possible to run #Apache with #PHP7 in one virtual server, and #PHP5 in another...
tobias: ♲ @utzer@social.yl.ms: Hey there social media hosting people and developers working on any of the #Fediverse systems! Is there anyone of you at the Chaos Communication Congress in Leipzig this year right after Christmas? Is there anyone interested to have a meeting there? Just some exchange, we would need some people to moderate the event, but basically some meetup to exchange information and get to know other players in the field. "Someone" could then register a "talk" or "meetup" for the upcoming congress, I'd say a duration of about 1.5 to 2 hours and maybe 60+ people can be expected, assuming there is many #webmasters or #developers among the visitors at the #35C3. Any #devs and #webmaster of the following systems, or any that I might have missed that are using #ActivityPup and can communicate with the others, please comment here if you like the idea! #Friendica #Diaspora #red #Hubzilla #GnuSocial #StatusNet #Mastodon #Pleroma #Socialhome #Ganggo Let me know if you have any questions. @utzer #35c3 #fediverse #federation
tobias's status on Friday, 19-Oct-2018 00:20:56 EDT
♲ @utzer@social.yl.ms: Hey there social media hosting people and developers working on any of the #Fediverse systems! Is there anyone of you at the Chaos Communication Congress in Leipzig this year right after Christmas? Is there anyone interested to have a meeting there? Just some exchange, we would need some people to moderate the event, but basically some meetup to exchange information and get to know other players in the field. "Someone" could then register a "talk" or "meetup" for the upcoming congress, I'd say a duration of about 1.5 to 2 hours and maybe 60+ people can be expected, assuming there is many #webmasters or #developers among the visitors at the #35C3. Any #devs and #webmaster of the following systems, or any that I might have missed that are using #ActivityPup and can communicate with the others, please comment here if you like the idea! #Friendica #Diaspora #red #Hubzilla #GnuSocial #StatusNet #Mastodon #Pleroma #Socialhome #Ganggo Let me know if you have any questions. @utzer #35c3 #fediverse #federation
utzer: Hey there social media hosting people and developers working on any of the #Fediverse systems! Is there anyone of you at the Chaos Communication Congress in Leipzig this year right after Christmas? Is there anyone interested to have a meeting there? Just some exchange, we would need some people to moderate the event, but basically some meetup to exchange information and get to know other players in the field. "Someone" could then register a "talk" or "meetup" for the upcoming congress, I'd say a duration of about 1.5 to 2 hours and maybe 60+ people can be expected, assuming there is many #webmasters or #developers among the visitors at the #35C3. Any #devs and #webmaster of the following systems, or any that I might have missed that are using #ActivityPup and can communicate with the others, please comment here if you like the idea! #Friendica #Diaspora #red #Hubzilla #GnuSocial #StatusNet #Mastodon #Pleroma #Socialhome #Ganggo Let me know if you have any questions. @utzer
utzer's status on Thursday, 18-Oct-2018 14:07:08 EDT
Hey there social media hosting people and developers working on any of the #Fediverse systems! Is there anyone of you at the Chaos Communication Congress in Leipzig this year right after Christmas? Is there anyone interested to have a meeting there? Just some exchange, we would need some people to moderate the event, but basically some meetup to exchange information and get to know other players in the field. "Someone" could then register a "talk" or "meetup" for the upcoming congress, I'd say a duration of about 1.5 to 2 hours and maybe 60+ people can be expected, assuming there is many #webmasters or #developers among the visitors at the #35C3. Any #devs and #webmaster of the following systems, or any that I might have missed that are using #ActivityPup and can communicate with the others, please comment here if you like the idea! #Friendica #Diaspora #red #Hubzilla #GnuSocial #StatusNet #Mastodon #Pleroma #Socialhome #Ganggo Let me know if you have any questions. @utzer
lnxw48a1: Whatchutalkinbout Willis? #GNU_Social has supported federated polls since the #StatusNet days, and long before #Twitter added it. (I don't think Qvitter supports polls, but there are other reasons to avoid it already.)
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 13-Jun-2018 18:34:35 EDT
Whatchutalkinbout Willis? #GNU_Social has supported federated polls since the #StatusNet days, and long before #Twitter added it. (I don't think Qvitter supports polls, but there are other reasons to avoid it already.)
tuttle: Somsants went live early 2012, we hoped other nodes would appear in other barrios de Barcelona and a new sovereign network would be born. But it never happened (yet, anyway). Back then we all ran statusnet software. I don't know the details on exactly how the transition to gnusocial happened. @mattl @mmn I think the !fediverse really took hold after the identica incident. It was as if the sun had been removed from the solar system. Just a few disorientated planets left behind. It was only then, once the overwhelmingly big central node had gone, that other nodes grew in equal conditions. I also remember Erkan finding us and getting in touch personally by email. Pulling us together, letting us know we were not alone and creating a sense of sysadmin community. I found this old email. -----------------8<---------------- From: Erkan Yilmaz Date: 2013/7/16 Subject: Fwd: 1. security hole in your Statusnet instance Hola, see below points 1 and 3-5 (don't make the patch public yet until we reach most of the SN admins) join also the SNadmins group (1) + the mailing list (2) so next time I have not so much work to do. Also: if you know the email of other SN admins, tell them please. Erkan Hi, 1. we discovered today a SQL injection bug in Statusnet (SN) I'm trying to get hold of most SN admins but my dent (1) seems not to reach you (2) this is the fix: http://somsants.net/url/113352 2. The text at the bottom of your statusnet install says: http://somsants.net/url/3787 is a microblogging service brought to you by "Free Software Foundation". but the link is wrong (the part between " ") http://somsants.net/url/113353 3. don't distribute the patch for 1. yet in public before we reach all SN admins (3) 4. Joshua will report this soon as CVE 5. you can reach us in the freenode irc channel #statusnet Erkan (1) http://somsants.net/url/113354 (2) http://somsants.net/url/113355 (3) http://somsants.net/url/1595 -----------------8<---------------- @kat So, quitter/se was on the fediverse _before_ hannes wrote the new interface? http://somsants.net/url/113356 @kat @zoowar @luke @mmn @bobjonkman @veg05 @mcscx2 @therubackup @grmpyoldman @ghostdancer @morph @merce@hispagatos.space @bob @lnxw48a1 @beni
tuttle's status on Friday, 08-Jun-2018 02:23:42 EDT
Somsants went live early 2012, we hoped other nodes would appear in other barrios de Barcelona and a new sovereign network would be born. But it never happened (yet, anyway). Back then we all ran statusnet software. I don't know the details on exactly how the transition to gnusocial happened. @mattl @mmn I think the !fediverse really took hold after the identica incident. It was as if the sun had been removed from the solar system. Just a few disorientated planets left behind. It was only then, once the overwhelmingly big central node had gone, that other nodes grew in equal conditions. I also remember Erkan finding us and getting in touch personally by email. Pulling us together, letting us know we were not alone and creating a sense of sysadmin community. I found this old email. -----------------8<---------------- From: Erkan Yilmaz Date: 2013/7/16 Subject: Fwd: 1. security hole in your Statusnet instance Hola, see below points 1 and 3-5 (don't make the patch public yet until we reach most of the SN admins) join also the SNadmins group (1) + the mailing list (2) so next time I have not so much work to do. Also: if you know the email of other SN admins, tell them please. Erkan Hi, 1. we discovered today a SQL injection bug in Statusnet (SN) I'm trying to get hold of most SN admins but my dent (1) seems not to reach you (2) this is the fix: http://somsants.net/url/113352 2. The text at the bottom of your statusnet install says: http://somsants.net/url/3787 is a microblogging service brought to you by "Free Software Foundation". but the link is wrong (the part between " ") http://somsants.net/url/113353 3. don't distribute the patch for 1. yet in public before we reach all SN admins (3) 4. Joshua will report this soon as CVE 5. you can reach us in the freenode irc channel #statusnet Erkan (1) http://somsants.net/url/113354 (2) http://somsants.net/url/113355 (3) http://somsants.net/url/1595 -----------------8<---------------- @kat So, quitter/se was on the fediverse _before_ hannes wrote the new interface? http://somsants.net/url/113356 @kat @zoowar @luke @mmn @bobjonkman @veg05 @mcscx2 @therubackup @grmpyoldman @ghostdancer @morph @merce@hispagatos.space @bob @lnxw48a1 @beni
mjd: @kat I can recall only one epic fail, but it was epic: Apparently, there's some grim legal logic in the #US which means that, after a certain amount of success, unless you're a 501c you can't afford not to have an IPO. And from that point on, you are a slave to shareholders. So #StatusNet 1.0 became "Enterprise Social Software". I posted something to the effect of "Oh, goody. Lotus Notes." which Evan took exception to. And then the money ran out, followed by the high-profile hackers hired with the money, followed by the founder who was dazzled by a shiny thing called node.js. https://web.archive.org/web/20110802043035/http://status.net:80/
mjd's status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 08:18:22 EDT
@kat I can recall only one epic fail, but it was epic: Apparently, there's some grim legal logic in the #US which means that, after a certain amount of success, unless you're a 501c you can't afford not to have an IPO. And from that point on, you are a slave to shareholders. So #StatusNet 1.0 became "Enterprise Social Software". I posted something to the effect of "Oh, goody. Lotus Notes." which Evan took exception to. And then the money ran out, followed by the high-profile hackers hired with the money, followed by the founder who was dazzled by a shiny thing called node.js. https://web.archive.org/web/20110802043035/http://status.net:80/
utzer: Anyone in the other parts of the #Fediverse wants to try #Friendica? I would love to see my idle server get something to do, so sign up and try it. friendica.utzer.de/ #Mastodon #Diaspora #Pleroma #TheFederation #GnuSocial #gnusocial.de #hubzilla #red #StatusNet #socialhome #ganggo #federation #newhere #neuhier
utzer's status on Monday, 16-Apr-2018 15:53:43 EDT
Anyone in the other parts of the #Fediverse wants to try #Friendica? I would love to see my idle server get something to do, so sign up and try it. friendica.utzer.de/ #Mastodon #Diaspora #Pleroma #TheFederation #GnuSocial #gnusocial.de #hubzilla #red #StatusNet #socialhome #ganggo #federation #newhere #neuhier
richard: Momentan kennt dieser Knoten 2974 Knoten mit insgesamt 1652775 registrierten Nutzern, die die folgenden Plattformen verwenden: #Friendica (277/1240) #diaspora (216/610635) #red (17/106) #hubzilla (143/2393) #GNU Social (185/2970) #StatusNet (11/29) #Mastodon (2065/1034165) #Pleroma (56/797) #socialhome (3/397) #ganggo (1/43) ganggo ist neu!
richard's status on Saturday, 17-Mar-2018 03:04:44 EDT
Momentan kennt dieser Knoten 2974 Knoten mit insgesamt 1652775 registrierten Nutzern, die die folgenden Plattformen verwenden: #Friendica (277/1240) #diaspora (216/610635) #red (17/106) #hubzilla (143/2393) #GNU Social (185/2970) #StatusNet (11/29) #Mastodon (2065/1034165) #Pleroma (56/797) #socialhome (3/397) #ganggo (1/43) ganggo ist neu!
aj: Hi !fediverse want to implement a #gnusocial share button on my website. I found #wordpress solutions but I looking for something that is equal to https://sharetodiaspora.github.io Any ideas? #ostatus #gnusocial #statusnet #mastodron
aj's status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2018 07:00:46 EST
Hi !fediverse want to implement a #gnusocial share button on my website. I found #wordpress solutions but I looking for something that is equal to https://sharetodiaspora.github.io Any ideas? #ostatus #gnusocial #statusnet #mastodron
lnxw48a1: @deejoe @bobjonkman @bob Happy to be of assistance there. An additional item to what @bobjonkman wrote: Part of why Evan P was funding #Identi.ca & #StatusNet mostly out of his own pocket was that he formerly had a VC-funded enterprise behind it, but advertising revenues were weak and users demanded its removal. There were some commercial customers and some individuals that paid, but probably not nearly enough. He had looked at some #OStatus protocol enhancements that could have improved federation and reduced cost, but many of the component protocols were sponsored by companies like #Google, which was no longer interested in them.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2017 18:51:07 EST
@deejoe @bobjonkman @bob Happy to be of assistance there. An additional item to what @bobjonkman wrote: Part of why Evan P was funding #Identi.ca & #StatusNet mostly out of his own pocket was that he formerly had a VC-funded enterprise behind it, but advertising revenues were weak and users demanded its removal. There were some commercial customers and some individuals that paid, but probably not nearly enough. He had looked at some #OStatus protocol enhancements that could have improved federation and reduced cost, but many of the component protocols were sponsored by companies like #Google, which was no longer interested in them.
bobjonkman: To be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #StatusNet customers). Evan developed #PumpIO to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #bifurcation did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !GNUsocial instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #GNUsocial and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIO
bobjonkman's status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 15:21:18 EST
To be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #StatusNet customers). Evan developed #PumpIO to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #bifurcation did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !GNUsocial instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #GNUsocial and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIO
tekk: You're telling me the new people don't remember that #GnuSocial is a failed project which couldn't keep up with #StatusNet :)
tekk's status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 11:34:14 EST
You're telling me the new people don't remember that #GnuSocial is a failed project which couldn't keep up with #StatusNet :)
bobjonkman: I'm running a personal instance of !GNUsocial for myself (https://gs.jonkman.ca), an old instance of #StatusNet (http://sn.jonkman.ca) that I'm maintaining because it has groups that I want to preserve, a StatusNet instance for @LaurelRusswurm@s.russwurm.com that also has a bunch of groups I want to preserve, and, online #AnyDayNow, a public instance at @KWLUG, my local Linux Users Group (configuration stymied by security settings at a level that prevent webapps from running). Don't join that yet; I may have to nuke it to fix its problems.
bobjonkman's status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2017 03:10:02 EDT
I'm running a personal instance of !GNUsocial for myself (https://gs.jonkman.ca), an old instance of #StatusNet (http://sn.jonkman.ca) that I'm maintaining because it has groups that I want to preserve, a StatusNet instance for @LaurelRusswurm@s.russwurm.com that also has a bunch of groups I want to preserve, and, online #AnyDayNow, a public instance at @KWLUG, my local Linux Users Group (configuration stymied by security settings at a level that prevent webapps from running). Don't join that yet; I may have to nuke it to fix its problems.
bobjonkman's status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2017 03:09:00 EDT
bobjonkman: Most annoying that I can't subscribe to a group on a #StatusNet instance that's sitting on the very same server as this instance...
bobjonkman's status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2017 01:17:21 EDT
Most annoying that I can't subscribe to a group on a #StatusNet instance that's sitting on the very same server as this instance...
rysiek: @piersb but the real beauty here is that there are hundreds of #GNUSocial / #StatusNet instances that #Mastodon already can federate with. We are many.
rysiek's status on Tuesday, 04-Apr-2017 06:02:17 EDT
@piersb but the real beauty here is that there are hundreds of #GNUSocial / #StatusNet instances that #Mastodon already can federate with. We are many.