Notices by clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la), page 4
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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 08-Jun-2018 05:26:08 EDT 
clacke
@cwebber My major problem is twofold:
1) Racket determines whether it should recompile system packages based on timestamps and, well. :-)
2) Racket has functionality to have several system install locations, but nobody uses it except me, so it's a bit lacking in places.
But you're installing it as a user package (right?), so I don't quite get why it would affect you at this point. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 08-Jun-2018 05:23:24 EDT
clacke
@cwebber I haven't said anything on the list, because I don't have a proper solution for you, and I knew I wouldn't be able to follow up with the proper research, and I had some reservations about whether I was on the right track, but I've been running into similar issues when struggling with Racket on Nix.
One thing you can try is to do what I do in installPhase in the racket2nix output:
$ raco pkg install --no-setup $install_names
$ raco setup --only --pkgs $setup_names
That only addresses one of the pitfalls, but it might be enough for your problem.
https://social.heldscal.la/url/1583636 -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 08-Jun-2018 05:14:13 EDT
clacke
@arunisaac @catonano @cwebber Found Gangwere @ indrora @ mstdn.io. Up to others in the convo if you want to @ him or not.
His talk was about being compassionate and inclusive, and non-abusive. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 08-Jun-2018 05:04:21 EDT
clacke
@cwebber @arunisaac @catonano @sajith
Slide 43 of https://social.heldscal.la/url/1583591 and the Q&A at the end of the talk shows that he is not anti-CoC, but rather anti CoCs done wrong.
Like "just slap this standard CoC on it and it'll all be fine", rather than anchoring the policy in the community and growing it out of the needs of the community. -
Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 10:51:53 EDT 
Christine Lemmer-Webber
Police break into Chelsea Manning's place with guns drawn for a "wellness check" https://theintercept.com/2018/06/05/chelsea-manning-video-twitter-police-mental-health/
> Manning was out of the country at the time of the incident, said Janus Cassandra, a close friend [...] “If Chelsea had been home when these cops arrived with guns drawn, she would be dead.”
If a friend appears to be having suicidal thoughts, DON'T CALL THE POLICE. Check in yourself or have a friend do so. Otherwise you increase their risk of death.
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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 08-Jun-2018 04:53:52 EDT
clacke
As part of #fractalide we are at some point going to need a build/CI server with extended capabilities.
Maybe we can build off Hydra[0], maybe Hercules[1]. Or maybe we'll have to make our own. Today I was also made aware of Cuirass[2], a Guix CI server. I should probably have a look at it to see if there's something unique and useful in there.
[0] http://www.nixos.org/hydra/
[1] https://github.com/hercules-ci/hercules
[2] https://notabug.org/mthl/cuirass
Hydra is made in Perl, Hercules in Haskell and Cuirass in Guile. If we make something of our own, it'll likely be made in Racket. -
see shy jo (joeyh@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 15:47:20 EDT 
see shy jo
@ocdtrekkie Github wiki, gists, user pages are all stored in git repos. Rest isn't. I don't know about the equivilants on Gitlab.
Also, https://github-backup.branchable.com/ pulls all the data into a branch (and backs up all repos you star or fork); I wrote it 6 years ago partly to demonstrate feasibiity, partly to not lose information when the inevitable github backlash happened.
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แทกโนมันซี (technomancy@icosahedron.website)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 13:00:32 EDT 
แทกโนมันซี
@joeyh interesting, so from your perspective the thing that's kept issues-in-git from catching on is the https://xkcd.com/927/ problem?
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see shy jo (joeyh@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:45:04 EDT
see shy jo
the single most important criteria when replacing Github
https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/the_single_most_important_criteria_when_replacing_Github/Consider all the data that's used to provide the value-added features on top of git. Issue tracking, wikis, notes in commits, lists of forks, pull requests, access controls, hooks, other configuration, etc.
Is that data stored in a git repository?
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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 10:02:40 EDT
clacke
@cereal @kensanata @steckerhalter
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=gG62zay3kck -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 09:56:41 EDT
clacke
@cwebber @bjoern @scolobb Very much this. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 09:44:15 EDT
clacke
@bjoern @scolobb Gitlab is not leveraging centralized copyleft as a way of making themselves a dominant party, but they are a dominant party, and quite consciously so.
IIRC they have hired any external developer that started making significant contributions, which is a softer way of making sure they control the direction of the project.
They also provide the read-only source code of the proprietary bits, which further fuzzies the line, but it *is* proprietary. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 09:38:57 EDT
clacke
@kensanata @steckerhalter Both meanings are used in German, Swedish and English alike. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 09:32:21 EDT
clacke
@kensanata @steckerhalter It's not a Germanism. The word has acquired several meanings over the centuries, and "being the origin of something" is the ... original meaning.
"Original" being a synonym of "novel" I suspect is over a century old, but still far newer than the "being the point of origin", which I suspect is at least as old as Middle English and coming from Old French.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/original agrees on the ... origin, but doesn't specify when the other meanings appeared. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 09:25:20 EDT
clacke
@steckerhalter @kensanata The common use of OP for Original Poster disagrees with you. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 09:24:01 EDT
clacke
@scolobb @bjoern Good summary.
I agree with bkuhn's view that the core (ah-hem) of the concept is really proprietary relicensing and/or proprietary add-ons. But that's just one view. There is no consensus on the meaning. -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 08:16:46 EDT
clacke
aaand the captive portal throws away my half-written semi-long post -
clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jun-2018 05:00:13 EDT
clacke
@cereal Please, tell me more.
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