@cassolotl so depressing, when you know people have been "preaching" this forever. Two years ago I was at a conference great debate, one of the man at the stage also was involved with "the limits of growth" published in 1972. All scientists we're kind of at a loss what else they should do now. There is video if you are interested! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMC1z6zrKLg