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  1. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Jun-2018 22:13:26 EDT Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    There's no limit to longevity, says study that revives human lifespan debate

    Death rates in later life flatten out and suggest there may be no fixed limit on human longevity, countering some previous work.

    Article word count: 1079

    HN Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17424735

    Posted by mrfusion (karma: 5564)

    Post stats: Points: 120 - Comments: 71 - 2018-06-29T14:34:14Z

    #HackerNews #debate #human #lifespan #limit #longevity #revives #says #study #that #theres


    Article content:

    Emma Morano, an Italian supercentenarian who died in 2017 at the age of 117, was the worldʼs last surviving person born in the 19th century.Credit: Antonio Calanni/AP/REX/Shutterstock

    There might be no natural limit to how long humans can live — at least not one yet in sight — contrary to the claims of some demographers and biologists.

    That’s according to a statistical analysis published Thursday in Science^[1]1 on the survival probabilities of nearly 4,000 ‘super-elderly’ people in Italy, all aged 105 and older.

    A team led by Sapienza University demographer Elisabetta Barbi and University of Roma Tre statistician Francesco Lagona, both based in Rome, found that the risk of death — which, throughout most of life, seems to increase as people age — levels off after age 105, creating a ‘mortality plateau’. At that point, the researchers say, the odds of someone dying from one birthday to the next are roughly 50:50 (see ‘Longevity unlimited’).

    “If there is a mortality plateau, then there is no limit to human longevity,” says Jean-Marie Robine, a demographer at the French Institute of Health and Medical Research in Montpellier, who was not involved in the study.

    That would mean that someone like Chiyo Miyako, the Japanese great-great-great-grandmother who, at 117, is the world’s oldest known person, could live for years to come — or even forever, at least hypothetically.

    Researchers have long debated whether humans have an upper age limit. The consensus holds that the risk of death steadily increases in adulthood, up to about age 80 or so. But there’s vehement disagreement about what happens as people enter their 90s and 100s.

    Some scientists have examined demographic data and concluded that there is a fixed, natural ‘shelf-life’ for our species and that mortality rates keep increasing. Others have looked at the same data and concluded that the death risk flattens out in one’s ultra-golden years, and therefore that human lifespan does not have an upper threshold.

    Age rage

    In 2016, geneticist Jan Vijg and his colleagues at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City rekindled the debate when they analysed the reported ages at death for the world’s oldest individuals over a half-century. They estimated that human longevity hit a ceiling at about 115 years — 125 tops.

    Vijg and his team argued^[2]2 that with few, if any, gains in maximum lifespan since the mid-1990s, human ageing had reached its natural limit. The longest known lifespan belongs to Jeanne Calment, a French super-centenarian who died in 1997 at age 122.

    Experts challenged the statistical methods in the 2016 study, setting off a firestorm into which now step Barbi and Lagona. Working with colleagues at the Italian National Institute of Statistics, the researchers collected records on every Italian aged 105 years and older between 2009 and 2015 — gathering certificates of death, birth and survival in an effort to minimize the chances of ‘age exaggeration’, a common problem among the oldest old.

    They also tracked individual survival trajectories from one year to the next, rather than lump people into age intervals as previous studies that combine data sets have done. And by focusing just on Italy, which has one of the highest rates of centenarians per capita in the world, they avoided the issue of variation in data collection among different jurisdictions.

    As such, says Kenneth Howse, a health-policy researcher at the Oxford Institute of Population Ageing in the United Kingdom, “these data provide the best evidence to date of extreme-age mortality plateaus in humans”.

    Ken Wachter, a mathematical demographer at the University of California, Berkeley, and an author of the latest study, suspects that prior disputes over the patterns of late-life mortality have largely stemmed from bad records and statistics. “We have the advantage of better data,” he says. “If we can get data of this quality for other countries, I expect we’re going to see much the same pattern.”

    Robine is not so sure. He says that unpublished data from France, Japan and Canada suggest that evidence for a mortality plateau is “not as clear cut”. A global analysis is still needed to determine whether the findings from Italy reflect a universal feature of human ageing, he says.

    Off limits

    The world is home to around 500,000 people aged 100 and up — a number that’s predicted to nearly double with each coming decade. Even if the risk of late-life mortality remains constant at 50:50, the swelling global membership in the 100-plus club should translate into a creep upwards in the oldest person alive by about one year per decade, says Joop de Beer, a longevity researcher at the Netherlands Interdisciplinary Demographic Institute in The Hague.

    Many researchers say they hope to better understand what’s behind the levelling off of mortality rates in later life. Siegfried Hekimi, a geneticist at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, speculates that the body’s cells eventually reach a point where repair mechanisms can offset further damage to keep mortality rates level.

    “Why this plateaus out and what it means about the process of ageing — I don’t think we have any idea,” Hekimi says.

    For James Kirkland, a geriatrician at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, the strong evidence for a mortality plateau points to the possibility of forestalling death at any age. Some experts think that the very frail are beyond repair. But if the odds of dying don’t increase over time, he says, interventions that slow ageing are likely to make a difference, even in the extremely old.

    Not everyone buys that argument — or the conclusions of the latest paper.

    Brandon Milholland, a co-author of the 2016 Nature paper, says that the evidence for a mortality plateau is “marginal”, as the study included fewer than 100 people who lived to 110 or beyond. Leonid Gavrilov, a longevity researcher at the University of Chicago in Illinois, notes that even small inaccuracies in the Italian longevity records could lead to a spurious conclusion.

    Others say the conclusions of the study are biologically implausible. “You run into basic limitations imposed by body design,” says Jay Olshansky, a bio-demographer at the University of Illinois at Chicago, noting that cells that do not replicate, such as neurons, will continue to wither and die as a person ages, placing upper boundaries on humansʼ natural lifespan.

    This study is thus unlikely to be the last word on the age-limit dispute, says Haim Cohen, a molecular biologist at Bar-Ilan University in Ramat-Gan, Israel. “I’m sure that the debate is going to continue.”

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    1. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05582-3#ref-CR1
    2. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05582-3#ref-CR2

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    1. There’s no limit to longevity, says study that revives human lifespan debate
      Death rates in later life flatten out and suggest there may be no fixed limit on human longevity, countering some previous work.
    2. There’s no limit to longevity, says study that revives human lifespan debate
      Death rates in later life flatten out and suggest there may be no fixed limit on human longevity, countering some previous work.
  2. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Apr-2018 11:14:38 EDT Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

    HN link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16902538

    Posted by NicoJuicy (karma: 4110)

    Post stats: Points: 113 - Comments: 41 - 2018-04-23T11:49:35Z

    #HackerNews #data #download #facebooks #included #not #whats #your

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  3. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Sunday, 22-Apr-2018 20:11:37 EDT Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    Zelle, the Banks’ Answer to Venmo, Proves Vulnerable to Fraud

    HN link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16898045

    Posted by rdhyee (karma: 244)

    Post stats: Points: 132 - Comments: 46 - 2018-04-22T19:30:52Z

    #HackerNews #answer #banks #fraud #proves #the #venmo #vulnerable #zelle

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  4. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Apr-2018 17:14:19 EDT Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    A Food Shortage Revealed the Cause of Celiac Disease

    HN link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16779856

    Posted by DoreenMichele

    Post Score: 99

    Comments: 57

    Timestamp: Sat Apr 7 07:54:09 UTC 2018

    #hackernews #story #A #Food #Shortage #Revealed #the #Cause #of #Celiac #Disease

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  5. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-2018 02:00:12 EDT Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    Message-Oriented Programming

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16624097

    Source: https://www.joeforshaw.com/blog/message-oriented-programming

    #hackernews

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  6. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Sunday, 04-Mar-2018 05:01:07 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    New Google's lawsuit

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16513739

    Source: https://www.wired.com/story/new-lawsuit-exposes-googles-desperation-to-improve-diversity/

    #hackernews

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    1. New Lawsuit Exposes Google's Desperation to Improve Diversity
      from WIRED
      A white male former employee has sued Google for allegedly favoring women and minorities in internal policies—this time within YouTube.
  7. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Sunday, 04-Mar-2018 04:45:08 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    The world of Linux Handhelds in 2018

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16513762

    Source: https://www.giantpockets.com/?p=5615

    #hackernews

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    1. The World of Linux Handhelds in 2018
      By ekianjo from Giant Pockets
      The World of Linux Handhelds in 2018
  8. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Feb-2018 13:01:10 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    Facebook turned ON Face Recognition silently

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16474938

    Source: https://imgur.com/a/tK8eW

    #hackernews

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  9. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2018 01:01:10 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    Why You Shouldn’t Use “Markdown” for Documentation (2016)

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16404279

    Source: http://ericholscher.com/blog/2016/mar/15/dont-use-markdown-for-technical-docs/

    #hackernews

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  10. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2018 01:01:07 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    How not to replace email: lessons from Google Wave

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16404452

    Source: https://jamey.thesharps.us/2018/02/16/how-not-to-replace-email/

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  11. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Saturday, 17-Feb-2018 19:01:12 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    In Switzerland, it's now illegal to boil a live lobster

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16402439

    Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/02/16/new-swiss-law-pain-free-deaths-lobsters-flushing-goldfish-down-toilet-breaking-law-according-new-swi/341412002/

    #hackernews

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    1. In a world first, Switzerland deems it illegal to boil a lobster
      from USA TODAY
      A law goes into effect March 1 that requires a humane death for lobsters before they are cooked because they sense pain.
  12. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Saturday, 17-Feb-2018 19:01:09 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    Reach for Markdown, not LaTeX

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16403086

    Source: https://blog.jez.io/reach-for-markdown/

    #hackernews

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    1. File without filename could not get a thumbnail source.
      Reach for Markdown, not LaTeX
      from Bits, Bytes, and Words
      Writing should be a pleasant experience. With the right tools, it can be. LaTeX is powerful but cumbersome to use. With Markdown, we can focus on our …
  13. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2018 21:01:31 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    I created a website for all free online tools. It's my playground

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16305793

    Source: https://hreftools.com

    #hackernews

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    1. Hreftools.com - Online Web Tools
      Online web tools to get your work done faster. It featured tools for SEO, web developer tools, email marketing and much more.
  14. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2018 02:00:12 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    A sample of brilliance

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16263288

    Source: https://blog.acolyer.org/2018/01/30/a-sample-of-brilliance/

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    1. A sample of brilliance
      By adriancolyer from the morning paper

      A sample of brilliance Jon Bentley et al., CACM 1987

      (Also available in )

      Jon Bentley’s “Programming Pearls” was a well-loved column in CACM (and also available in book form). Today we’re taking at look at his “Sample of Brilliance” column from 1987, featuring guest contributions from none other then Bob Floyd (whose Turing Award lecture we reviewed yesterday). It’s a chance to see Floyd’s algorithm development skills in action.

      An earlier Jon Bentley column (December 1984) had discussed sampling algorithms. By sampling here we mean drawing a random sample without replacement. For example, dealing a hand of 5 cards (out of the 52 in a deck). Let’s assume we have to hand a function RandInt(I,J) that returns an integer uniformly distributed over I..J as a building block. For example, in JavaScript:

      function randInt(i,j) {
        return i + Math.floor(Math.random() * j);
      }
      

      The sampling algorithm from the 1984 column, algorithm ‘S’, worked as follows:

      Here’s a JavaScript rendition:

      /* sample m integers from n */
      function sampleS(m, n) {
         let s = new Set();  
         while(s.size < m) {
            s.add(randInt(1,n);
         }
         return s;  
      }
      

      Algorithm S has many virtues: it is correct, fairly efficient, and remarkably succinct. It is so good, as a matter of fact, that I thought one couldn’t do better. In the December 1984 column I therefore charged ahead and described it in detail. Unfortunately I was wrong; fortunately, Bob Floyd caught me sleeping.

      What had caught Floyd’s eye, was the case when N = M = 100. Suppose you have already drawn 99 random numbers, there is only one possible choice for the last one! And yet algorithm S will carry on blindly drawing random numbers until it hits by chance on that special last number. Is there an algorithm that uses exactly one call of RandInt for each random number in S?

      Floyd’s key rule in this problem was, in his own words, to “look for a mathematical characterization of the solution before you think about an algorithm to obtain it.”

      This led him to Algorithm F1:

      With a fairly direct translation in JavaScript as follows:

      function sampleF1(m, n) {
          let s = new Set();
          if (m !== 0) {
              s = sampleF1(m-1, n-1);
              const t = randInt(1, n);
              s.add( s.has(t) ? n : t );
          }
          return s;
      }
      

      We can appreciate the correctness of Floyd’s algorithm anecdotally. When M=5 and N=10, the algorithm first recursively computes in S a 4-element random sample from 1..9. Next it assigns to T a random integer in the range 1..10. Of the 10 values that T can assume, exactly 5 result in inserting 10 into S: the four values already in S, and the value 10 itself. Thus element 10 is inserted into the set with the correct probability of 5/10.

      (You could construct a nice inductive proof based on those observations).

      I’m sure you’ve noticed another inefficiency though – we’re creating a lot of Set objects! By introducing a temporary variable J, Floyd was able to eliminate the recursion and give an iterative algorithm almost as succinct as Algorithm S:

      In JavaScript:

      function sampleF2(m, n) {
          let s = new Set();
          for (let j = n - m + 1; j <= n; j++) { 
              const t = randInt(1, j);
              s.add( s.has(t) ? j : t );
          }	 
          return s;
      }
      

      Let’s do a run with M=3 and N=10…

      M = 3, N = 10, S = {}
      Iteration 1:  J = 8
        Draw T = 7
        S = {7}
      Iteration 2: J = 9
        Draw T = 4
        S = {7, 4}
      Iteration 3: J = 10
        Draw T = 7 // again
        S = {7, 4, 10} 
      

      I averaged the results of 10 runs each of algorithms S, F1, and F2, and you can clearly see the superiority of F2 as N gets larger (times are in ms on my laptop, ALG F1 runs out of stack when N is 100,00):

      N ALG S (N,N) ALG F1 (N,N) ALG F2 (N,N)
      10 0.32 0.18 0.17
      100 5.24 0.80 0.60
      1,000 7.84 3.42 2.09
      10,000 68.96 15.76 12.79
      100,000 1,063.54 – 168.87
      1,000,000 35,831.82 – 3,652.89

      If we’re interested not just in a random set, but also that the elements of the sample occur in a random order, then Algorithm F2 isn’t perfect. Notice that if we draw a random number we’ve seen before, we add J in increasing order with each iteration. Interestingly, the documentation for JavaScript’s Set also over specifies (in my view) what will happen when you iterate over set members – they are returned in the order you added them.

      For the final piece of the puzzle therefore, Floyd gives us ‘Algorithm P’, a way of generating a random permutation.

      To compute an M-element permutation from 1..N, it first computes an (M-1) element permutation from 1..N-1; a recursive version of the algorithm eliminates the variable J.

      In JavaScript:

      function permute(m, n) {
          let s = new Array();
          for (let j = n - m + 1; j <= n; j++) {
              const t = randInt(1,j);
              const i = s.indexOf(t);
              if (i === -1) {
                  s.splice(0, 0, t);
              } else {
                  s.splice(i+1, 0, j);
              }
          }
          return s;
      }  
      

      Doug McIlroy found an elegant way to show this is correct: “there is one and only one way to produce each permutation, because the algorithm can be run backward.”

      Consider the case with M=5, N=10, and the final sequence is 7 2 9 1 5. Because 10 (the final value of J) does not occur in S, the previous sequence must have been 2 9 1 5, and randInt returned T = 7. Keep following the chain, and you can recover the entire sequence of random values. And therefore, “because all random sequences are (supposedly) equally likely, all permutations are also.”

      Algorithm S is a pretty good algorithm, but not good enough for Bob Floyd. Not content with its inefficiency, he developed optimal algorithms for generating random samples and random permutations. His programs are a model of efficiency, simplicity, and elegance.

      Following his mathematical analysis of the problem, and after conceiving Algorithm P, Floyd recalled, “I knew it was right even before I proved it.” But note that he did indeed go on to prove it!

      If you want to play with these algorithms some more, the original column (link at the top of this post) contains a set of eight problems that will have you reasoning about different implementations of Sets and Sequences, as well as proofs of correctness.

  15. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Monday, 22-Jan-2018 02:00:11 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    Linus Torvalds – “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for unclear reasons.”

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16202205

    Source: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1801.2/04628.html

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  16. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 04:15:11 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    A USC lab has been keeping tabs on internet connectivity

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16095397

    Source: http://uk.pcmag.com/news/92673/this-is-what-it-takes-to-measure-the-internet

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    1. This Is What it Takes to Measure the Internet
      from PCMag UK
      A USC lab has been keeping tabs on internet connectivity since its inception, work that is now crucial in an age of cyber attacks and crippling storms. We stopped by for a visit.
  17. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2018 23:01:12 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    The Future of Transmit iOS

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16081971

    Source: https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-transmit-ios/

    #hackernews

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    1. File without filename could not get a thumbnail source.
      The Future of Transmit iOS
      By Cabel from Panic Blog
      The Future of Transmit iOS
  18. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2018 21:01:11 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    “My ten hour white noise video now has five copyright claims”

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16075325

    Source: https://twitter.com/littlescale/status/949032404206870528

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  19. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2018 09:01:11 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    Alan Turing’s “Can Computers Think?” Radio Broadcasts Re-Recorded

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16066996

    Source: http://aperiodical.com/2018/01/ive-re-recorded-alan-turings-can-computers-think-radio-broadcasts/

    #hackernews

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    1. File without filename could not get a thumbnail source.
      I've re-recorded Alan Turing's "Can Computers Think?" radio broadcasts
      By James Grime from The Aperiodical
      I’ve re-recorded Alan Turing’s “Can Computers Think?” radio broadcasts
  20. Hacker News ( unofficial ) (hackernews@pod.jpope.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2018 02:30:13 EST Hacker News ( unofficial ) Hacker News ( unofficial )

    2018 Is the Last Year of America's Public Domain Drought

    Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16048998

    Source: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xw4gwd/public-domain-drought

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    1. 2018 Is the Last Year of America's Public Domain Drought
      from Motherboard
      Happy Public Domain Day to everyone except America.
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