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1. ∑ XahLee (xahlee@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 05:30:52 EDT ∑ XahLee

   Safari sucks donkey ass. Firefox sucks donkey ass.

   1. Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣ (chriswilson@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 05:38:26 EDT Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣

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      @xahlee I long for a lean browser engine. All of it just eats memory.....for what ???

      1. ∑ XahLee (xahlee@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 05:40:14 EDT ∑ XahLee

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         @ChrisWilson on my dodgy machine, chrome is doing very well.
         that is, chrome vs firefox vs opera.
         Firefox sucks by far. Don't know about Edge, i think it should be good... but, was surprised nobody uses.

         1. ∑ XahLee (xahlee@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 05:40:37 EDT ∑ XahLee

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            @ChrisWilson it's also pretty sad, because google is now skynet evil.

      2. ay (ayy@gs.smuglo.li)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 05:55:45 EDT ay

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         @chriswilson @xahlee For running javascript trackers and ads duh.
         1. Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣ (chriswilson@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:04:52 EDT Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣

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            @ayy @xahlee ad nausaum ? Is an opposite to an ad blocker. It's an ad clicker and floods the trackers with meaningless data. You can either give them silence or, if that doesn't work, give them noise

            1. ay (ayy@gs.smuglo.li)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:09:19 EDT ay

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               @chriswilson @xahlee I think using ad nausaum is very ill advised. You will be selectively screwing over the websites and writers that you like.
               1. ∑ XahLee (xahlee@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:10:21 EDT ∑ XahLee

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                  @ayy @ChrisWilson indeed.

            2. ∑ XahLee (xahlee@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:12:22 EDT ∑ XahLee

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               @ChrisWilson @ayy the solution to bad ads or ads at all, is simply not to click it, or don't visit the website.

               the use of ad blocker, is scum, and actually makes things worse. Of course, open source fanatics or hacker geeks loves the ad blocker idea, which made things far worse long run. Witness since 2000.

               1. ay (ayy@gs.smuglo.li)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:14:49 EDT ay

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                  @xahlee @chriswilson I block ads myself, but I wouldn't use ad nausaum, because It is way more harmful.
                  1. Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣ (chriswilson@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:18:08 EDT Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣

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                     @ayy please explain.... I have been looking into some ideas like that. Volume usage would help

                     @xahlee

                     1. ay (ayy@gs.smuglo.li)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:22:33 EDT ay

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                        @chriswilson @xahlee Well imagine that there is a blog about some opinions you are interested in. Imagine that 10% of people reading that blog use ad nausaum. Then that person will likely be banned from ad networks. He will stop making any money and may stop blogging because of it. Soon no one writes from your perspective anymore, because it will be a financial suicide.
                        
                        But this other person who writes about opinions you dont like. He doesnt get any fake ad clicks so he keeps making money.
                        1. Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣ (chriswilson@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:34:10 EDT Sir Chris Wilson 3️⃣3️⃣

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                           @ayy fair call.

                           But I guess that's where the value for value works, and ad revenue becomes irrelevant, trouble is, outside No Agenda, I don't know anyone able to go full time without relying on some ad revenue. Many not left content creators are finding out how recently :-)

                           @xahlee

               2. Silent Ice Cream (silenticecream@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 06:50:54 EDT Silent Ice Cream

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                  @xahlee @ayy @ChrisWilson Malvertising. That is why I use ad blockers.

               3. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 09:09:20 EDT lnxw48a1

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                  @xahlee @ChrisWilson @ayy Browsing without adblock tempts ad-supported sites to generate accidental clicks. Witness the various pop-up techniques, such as the ones that arise as you scroll over text.
                  Don't click: doesn't work when tricks generate accidental clicks
                  Don't visit: users don't always know site is evil about being ad-supported until they click a link
                  Solution is adblock and / or script block
                  1. ∑ XahLee (xahlee@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 15:13:16 EDT ∑ XahLee

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                     @lnxw48a1 @ayy @ChrisWilson
                     no. just don't click. and if they do popup or aggravate, simply don't visit.
                     And to a point when they are too much, they'll fall.

                     also, it is the proper thing to do.

                     as simple as that.

                     it's called capitalism.

                     adblock, privacy law, “regulation” law, and mob anger to tell company what to do as if you have a right, all just makes it far worse.

                     witness years 2000 to today.

                     1. ∑ XahLee (xahlee@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 15:13:45 EDT ∑ XahLee

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                        @ChrisWilson @ayy @lnxw48a1
                        we got where we are today, where privacy is not possible, cloud is impossible to avoid, cookie and js can't be turned off, is result.

                        1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 15:58:04 EDT lnxw48a1

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                           @xahlee We got where we are because people don't (intentionally) click ads. Ad networks and ad supported sites think they are entitled to have people view ads, in the hope that the more ads people view, the more likely they'll accidentally click one. And that's all it is.
                     2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 15:50:59 EDT lnxw48a1

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                        @xahlee Just don't click *does not work* ... nobody intentionally clicks on ads. That's why ad networks started spying on us. It is also why the ads move, pop-up, and obscure site content.
                        Avoiding ad-supported sites doesn't work because people post links to sites (FB, T, etc; even here).
                        The *only things that work* are adblock and scriptblock.
   2. Dr Neil (drneilmb@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 12:16:30 EDT Dr Neil

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      @xahlee and Chrome is spying on me. Time for IE now?