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1. Combaticus (combaticus@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:33:55 EDT Combaticus

   "Why the Word 'Woke' Encapsulates An Evil, Self-Defeating Ideology"

   Great piece, my Millennials!

   http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/18/word-woke-encapsulates-evil-self-defeating-ideology/

   @adam

   1. Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight (johnnyoftheswamp@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 15:14:10 EDT Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight

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      @Combaticus Funny enough I think my first experience with the terminology was in the conspiracy video "Wake Up Call" and then going down the rabbit hole of that subculture finding people being "woken up" to The System. From there it seemed like an easy contraction to be "woke".

      The video itself is mostly an edited together piece with many other sources. A great deal of it is total tinfoil hat Illuminati business but some of it very much not so.

      1. Combaticus (combaticus@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 15:16:32 EDT Combaticus

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         @Johnny_of_the_swamp Interesting ... I need to find that vid and give it a watch. Do you have a link handy? No worries—I'm sure Google will give it to me.

         1. Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight (johnnyoftheswamp@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 15:25:46 EDT Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight

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            @Combaticus It has been copy struck from existence I believe. This was an underground work for sure, relayed to me by a grassroots policy guy probably 10 years ago.

            But I am a digital packrat and I'm 99% sure I have a copy.

   2. Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight (johnnyoftheswamp@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 16:56:05 EDT Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight

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      @Combaticus Now that I've actually read the article, it is interesting. I think he totally get Jung wrong though.

      1. Combaticus (combaticus@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 17:22:20 EDT Combaticus

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         @Johnny_of_the_swamp Really? What part? I know Jung was big into Hermeticism and Gnosis, even collected lost books and documents on the subject. What's your take?

         1. Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight (johnnyoftheswamp@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 17:29:00 EDT Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight

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            @Combaticus He was *into* those things but I don't think he thought of himself as a gnostic. He really saw them as sort of a primitive form of psychology. Either way the author's take presents a hard-line of gnostic thinking where all flesh is bad, all systems are oppressive, which is definitely not in line with Jung. I'm just a layman, but I have read most of Jung's collected works when I was a younger man searching for meaning in life.

            1. Combaticus (combaticus@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 17:33:02 EDT Combaticus

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               @Johnny_of_the_swamp Fair enough. Jung aside, do you agree with the basic idea of the article, the connection of woke to Gnosis? I thought it was interesting and that there was certainly some truth to it.

               1. Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight (johnnyoftheswamp@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 18:23:55 EDT Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight

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                  @Combaticus In general, kinda. I think the answer is "Post modernism" instead of "gnosticism", but to the extent the Pomos were influenced by gnosticism, sure. I think if your intended audience are Christians, they will be more familiar with gnostics from the epistles rather than continental philosophy.

                  1. Combaticus (combaticus@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 18:49:56 EDT Combaticus

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                     @Johnny_of_the_swamp Good point. You know I just ordered (and received) Hicks' "Explaining Postmodernism" based on JBP's recommendation. Looking forward to reading that.

            2. Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight (johnnyoftheswamp@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 17:33:33 EDT Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight

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               @Combaticus When Jung refers to the Cthonic and the Shadow, his thesis is that our ignorance of these things is what binds us to them, not that they are bad.