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Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann (kzimmermann@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 03:06:25 EST Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann I hope that this nasty #Cryptocurrency mining #Javascript trend at least serves to educate more people on why #NoScript is important. -
zoowar (zoowar@indy.im)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 05:22:58 EST zoowar All that will come of this is that more people will think they are earning bitcoins. -
Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann (kzimmermann@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 08:27:47 EST Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann @zoowar sounds like a 2010s' version of the "CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE THE 1000000TH VISITOR" pop-ups. -
zoowar (zoowar@indy.im)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 09:57:21 EST zoowar Or the Nigerian version where you send real money to unlock your bitcoins.
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Mister M. T. Sack (thatbrickster@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 06:29:06 EST Mister M. T. Sack @kzimmermann Opera 50 will have a blocker against miners. Problem we have is enabling an even worse alternative for revenue. -
Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann (kzimmermann@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 08:26:16 EST Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann @thatbrickster that's an interesting idea, wonder if it'll work well. And you're right. We can't underestimate how evil #advertisers can get -
Mister M. T. Sack (thatbrickster@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 09:13:55 EST Mister M. T. Sack @kzimmermann Except JS mining alternatives like CoinHive/Monero were created for other people and isn't advertising anything explicitly. -
lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 10:11:42 EST lnxw48a1 @thatbrickster @kzimmermann Then people who voluntarily run JS miners can unblock the particular script / domain necessary. -
Mister M. T. Sack (thatbrickster@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 19:54:34 EST Mister M. T. Sack @lnxw48a1 @kzimmermann I'm aware although this doesn't prove the 'evil advertiser' narrative in this case. Regardless, the point I was trying to make was blocking ads helped cause JS miners to spread in the first place. -
Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann (kzimmermann@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 22:23:38 EST Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann @thatbrickster @lnxw48a1 yup, and one could say that "not paying to surf" was what started the whole ad/tracking business in the web -
lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 22:56:02 EST lnxw48a1 @thatbrickster @kzimmermann Maybe, but ad-supported services have a long history. Juno's "free" ad-supported e-mail service debuted sometime in the 1990s with the slogan "e-mail is supposed to be free" By 1997, AOL's explosive growth had started. #AOL had ads everywhere. When I would go to close down the program, there would be several windows behind other windows (within the application's main window), most of which were ads or DMs from someone wanting to sell something or recruit MLM downlines. -
Mister M. T. Sack (thatbrickster@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2017 06:43:07 EST Mister M. T. Sack @lnxw48a1 @kzimmermann Again, I'm aware the revenue model exists (I remember using Opera 6 and, ugh, Skype) and of the underhanded ways they're delivered. The ways you mentioned are not applicable in this sense as this was about JS miners which are less of a nuisance and more of an immorality if the user doesn't know about them. -
lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2017 07:02:52 EST lnxw48a1 @thatbrickster Directly relevant to the not paying to surf comment. -
Mister M. T. Sack (thatbrickster@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2017 07:05:27 EST Mister M. T. Sack @lnxw48a1 Fair enough. Hard enough staying awake on this train but it's my fault for missing that.
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Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann (kzimmermann@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2017 21:17:08 EST Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann @lnxw48a1 @thatbrickster damn, that invasive pop-up era... we were young and naive back then. #nostalgia
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stragu (stragu@mastodon.indie.host)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2017 23:48:37 EST stragu @kzimmermann wow have people been using JS to make other people's computers mine for them??
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