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1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 19:57:05 EST Danyl Strype
   @deavmi @chris I recently discovered #GitLab has its own answer to GitHub Pages. Would be experimental to teach this to beginners though ;)
   1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 20:25:28 EST lnxw48a1

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      @strypey This may not fit your goal, but there are some "site builder" type tools on some hosting sites.
      
      It might be an easy way for someone to throw up a simple page. (Disclaimer: I've never tried one. Not even once.)
      1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 22:52:15 EST Danyl Strype

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         thanks @lnxw48a1, this is a topic that started in May in response to various articles about how over-engineered websites have become
         1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 22:54:11 EST Danyl Strype

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            @lnxw48a1 this one is a good example: https://mobiforge.com/research-analysis/the-web-is-doom
            1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 22:55:00 EST Danyl Strype

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               @lnxw48a1 also this article by Tammy Everts https://www.soasta.com/blog/page-bloat-average-web-page-2-mb/
               1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 22:56:44 EST Danyl Strype

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                  @lnxw48a1 Tammy's article has lots of helpful visualizations on the scale of web page bloat
                  1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 22:58:22 EST Danyl Strype

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                     @lnxw48a1 as well as lots of links to articles about optimizing the different elements of web pages
                     1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 22:59:52 EST Danyl Strype

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                        @lnxw48a1 part of the problem is that most people think learning #HTML + #CSS is impossible, and demand WYSIWYG web interfaces
                        1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2018 23:02:08 EST Danyl Strype

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                           @lnxw48a1 I think this is akin to people demanding a way to make books with crayons rather than learning to write, with similar results