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1. Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan: (elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 01:33:40 EST Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan:

   The charging standard is a pile of fuck, rarely obeyed, and is really stupid actually. I think USB-C only partially solves the problem... dodgy Chinese chargers designed for MacBooks will probably happily send 20v to your phone and brick it.

   1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 01:40:05 EST clacke

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      @elizafox As evidenced by the excellent and thorough (but seems to have gone on hiatus since half a year back) Google Plus blog-ish by Google's USB-C champion Benson Leung:
      
      https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
      
      Looots of frying, bricking, broken cables and chargers out there.
      1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 01:48:35 EST clacke

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         Don't you just love it when a market segment is so full of garbage that reviews contain lines like:
         
         > All the wires are here on this one
         1. Tomas SA2TMS (tomas@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 05:49:09 EST Tomas SA2TMS

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            I've run into micro-USB cables from Apple that only have wires for power, not data. At least they *looked* like Apple cables, might be Chinese knockoffs
            1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 20:24:39 EST clacke

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               @tomas Yeah, on USB-B that was kind of normal. But you can't mark those with the USB logo etc.
               
               On USB-C everything is complicated and even for charging you want to negotiate over data channels and stuff.
               
               And you still definitely shouldn't sell something as USB 3.1 USB-C if it doesn't have all wires.