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1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 03:19:30 EST clacke
   https://sobac.com/wiki/List_of_Free_Software_Social_Media_platforms is a good live update of @mike 's excellent "Social Metaverse Protocol/Alliance Map"[0], but I should go in and add e.g. a whole bunch of AP and SSB projects that aren't on there.
   
   [0] https://social.heldscal.la/url/1206805 https://social.heldscal.la/attachment/1206803
   1. hoergen (hoergen@social.hoergen.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 03:58:38 EST hoergen

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      @clacke @mike ahm .... Friendica OStatus+ ???! It's core is DFRN. Diaspora has it's Diaspora Protocol. Mastodons main protocol is not OStatus any more. Hubzillas core is Zot. What's their difference between decentralized and federated? The expression "Fediverse" is mostly used instead of "Metaverse" (because of Federation/federated) I think the authors should do far more resarch and there is a lot misleading information on that page. And I only took a quick look on that page. But the name listing of the projects is well done.
      1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 04:00:46 EST clacke

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         @hoergen "Metaverse" is @mike 's name for the union of Fediverse, Federation and other social networks tied together by his multi-protocol nodes.
      2. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 04:03:03 EST clacke

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         @hoergen @mike Request an account and improve the page, that's what I will do.
         
         Re: decentralized and federated, both have definitions listed at the bottom, just that both definitions are "(what do we mean by this?)". :-D
         1. hoergen (hoergen@social.hoergen.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 04:11:47 EST hoergen

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            @clacke great! I'm preparing slowly some blog posts about the federation and would love to link to such a page, if most of the information is correct ;) @mike
            1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 04:16:07 EST clacke

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               @hoergen I'll keep you posted if I ever do register and update that page. ;-)
               1. hoergen (hoergen@social.hoergen.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 04:24:00 EST hoergen

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                  @clacke that would be great 👍🌻
                  1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 04:31:10 EST clacke

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                     @hoergen Oh! Turns out this site is @bobjonkman 's site. :-)
                     
                     http://sobac.com/wiki/Project:About
      3. mike (mike@loadaverage.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 07:10:04 EST mike

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         > there is a lot misleading information on that page. And I only took a quick look on that page.
         
         Your comment indicates you don't really understand what that chart represents.
         
         The referenced chart was a snapshot of the protocol "alliances" of the metaverse in mid 2017. the metaverse is a superset of the fediverse and federation and the ActivityPub community and a number of other protocol alliances. It was also obsolete before the ink dried, but that is the nature of the beast. The world changes. We deal with it.
         
         Yes, I know what protocol Friendica uses. I wrote it. Yes, I know what protocol Diaspora uses. I've implemented the Diaspora protocol 9 times now for 5 different projects and helped define some critical pieces of the second iteration (which was used from 2011 to 2016).
         1. mike (mike@loadaverage.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 07:21:21 EST mike

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            My bad. I thought you were referring to my protocol alliance map - I just looked at the sobac.com page and I agree it does seem to have a number of factual errors. My apologies for responding defensively before tracking down the rest of this thread from other sites.
         2. hoergen (hoergen@social.hoergen.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 09:09:06 EST hoergen

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            @mike obviously I don't understand what the chart represents. But it could also be, that it isn't explained enough so that one like me can understand it. The page itself explains very little, so I had to find my own conclusions. Maybe you put more explanation to it and for example you tell on that chart why you only list e.f. OStatus or ActivityPub. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy when people like to bring more light in our Meta/Fedi/Universe and I understand that this page is "a heavily work in progress". Go on 👍🌻
            1. mike (mike@loadaverage.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 16:39:44 EST mike

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               As noted in a followup I thought you were referring to my protocol alliance snapshot from last year (only); but it seems you were mostly referring to a different wiki webpage which I personally had nothing to do with and take no responsibility for. Again my apologies for not understanding the original issues, as this thread was slightly fragmented.
               1. hoergen (hoergen@social.hoergen.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 16:47:45 EST hoergen

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                  @mike no problem :) @clackemovedtoheldscalla maybe want to dive deeper, so we can improve clarity and detail a bit more 👍🌻
   2. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 12:09:47 EST Bob Jonkman

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      Please do add more information! The wiki table contains as much information as I was able to find easily; if anyone knows of corrections / additions / clarifications I welcome your contribution! /cc @hoergen @mike @clacke
      1. hoergen (hoergen@social.hoergen.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 16:49:33 EST hoergen

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         @bobjonkman I think @clacke want to get involved and together we can give your page more good value. And thank you for starting it! 👍🌻@mike