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1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 05-Mar-2018 02:40:29 EST clacke
   @benis I was hoping to get your technical insights on why Gnutella is superior to everything, but all I got was word salad and "it's semantic".
   
   But it's good to know that Gnutella is available for i2p. I wasn't previously aware, so thanks for that. I will keep that in mind next time I'm looking for something.
   
   IPFS over i2p shouldn't be very different from IPFS over TCP/IP, it's just that nobody has yet bothered. And I guess it would be pretty harshly segregated from the clearnet IPFS, but then so is the case with bittorrent.
   
   IPFS already offers clear advantages over bittorrent: Thanks to the public gateway, I can submit #hpr episodes over IPFS, but I can't do that over bittorrent.
   1. レイン∵λ (benis@social.i2p.rocks)'s status on Monday, 05-Mar-2018 02:58:07 EST レイン∵λ

      in reply to
      @clacke
      >superior to everything
      Your words, not mine. I specified Gnutella was superior, for I2P, in designed, and explained why next posts.
      
      In I2P, you want to have as many things, well your entire suite of applications running on it, since it is an overlay network.
      Therefore, if you want an exercise from me (i.e. productive discussion), is to federate on I2P any OStatus|ActivePub server. @jeff already did for pleroma, and it's upstream.
      Doing so, will prove to you everything I've said this entire thread about networking and testing. It doesn't have to come from my words, but your experience.
      
      >nobody has yet bothered.
      take, a serious guess why, ignoring my background.
      >it would be pretty harshly segregated from the clearnet IPFS
      oh, are your lightbulbs finally turning on?!? please keep mentally exploring why IPFS fails from ground up, up down, left right and in between in it's idea, and worst, it's implementations.
      
      >IPFS already offers clear advantages over bittorrent
      Please, enlighten me
      >public gateway, I can submit #hpr episodes over IPFS, but I can't do that over bittorrent.
      You either live on a cave, or you need to clean up your bias:
      https://webtorrent.io/faq /Who is using WebTorrent today?
      lit. @jeff made this in a few weeks: https://gitgud.tv
      and peertube blazes IPFS many many many times.
      1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 05-Mar-2018 03:08:14 EST clacke

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         @benis
         
         >> nobody has yet bothered [to port IPFS to i2p]
         
         > take, a serious guess why, ignoring my background.
         
         I don't know your background, but my assumption has been all along that anybody who is interested in anonymous file sharing would simply use freenet instead of IPFS. IPFS optimizes for performance and in doing so ignores anonymity and deniability.
         
         But somewhere along the line, somebody will probably find IPFS over i2p the right balance for their use case, and they will port it just like @jeff did with Pleroma. After all, it was possible with bittorrent and IPFS isn't too different.
         
         BitTorrent not working for HPR uploads simply means the form and the process assumes an http*:// URL. WebTorrent and PeerTube have nothing to do with it.