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  1. Verius (verius@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Sep-2017 05:15:24 EDT Verius Verius
    After working with Django for a bit I'm finding myself thinking that it's a typical framework: great for when you need what it provides, a giant pain when you need to work outside the box.

    For larger applications I think I still prefer Pylons, even though I haven't worked with it for something like 4 years. It's way more work up front and therefore not suitable for smaller projects with tight deadlines but it has a LOT less cruft to deal with (i.e. SQLAlchemy as ORM vs the crappy old Django thing, Mako as default vs crappy Django template language, better Jinja2 support[1] in Pylons).

    [1] To be fair to Django, the biggest problem here is one of documentation: not being clear about how you can use Jinja2 for your own templates without losing the admin even though this appears to be possible.
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