in other step-daughter related news, last night she saw me tinkering with lisp game stuff and asked if we could make a game. I don't think I was able to hold her interest given how primitive my capabilities are. I got a sprite on screen and she immediately wondered why she couldn't move around when she pressed the arrow keys. games are hard! later I did manage to give the sprite a 2 frame animation and the ability to move left/right and jump. maybe that will get her interest back.