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1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:07:40 EDT clacke
   Is anyone using not-grub to boot Linux on their UEFI machine? rEFInd? syslinux?
   
   Why are you doing it? Should I consider it too?
   
   I think @lain mentioned just using rEFInd?
   1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:12:38 EDT Oneesan succubus

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      @clacke yes, refind. It's easy and logical, none of that usual bootloader "magic"
      1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:26:22 EDT clacke

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         @lain Do you have a FAT /boot, or what does rEFInd understand?
         1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:27:35 EDT Oneesan succubus

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            @clacke yes, but efi can use drivers too, you can use ext4 if you want, but I just have a fat
            1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:28:59 EDT clacke

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               @lain Ok. Does your distro rewrite any ini files for it? Or do you use something symlink-like?
               1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:30:59 EDT Oneesan succubus

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                  @clacke no, I think I wrote something manually
                  1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:32:04 EDT clacke

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                     @lain Do you need to hold its hand when you upgrade the kernel?
                     1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:33:05 EDT clacke

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                        @lain Or did you get it to Just Work and it picks up the new kernel when you reboot?
                        1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:33:37 EDT Oneesan succubus

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                           @clacke yes, that worked
                           1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:37:09 EDT clacke

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                              @lain Ok, cool.
                              
                              Oh, right, its just /boot/efi that "needs" to be FAT, so I guess you can then configure it to use the syminks in /boot.
                              1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:38:05 EDT Oneesan succubus

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                                 @clacke I mean, you can boot Linux kernels directly with efi, too, they are efi binaries.
                                 1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:46:47 EDT clacke

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                                    @lain Oh. Right. If I don't even need rEFInd, that's even cooler. So what it adds is just a better boot menu if you think the one shipped with the UEFI sucks?
                                    
                                    Apparently rEFInd has autodetection, so even if you do make use of it, it seems you don't really need to do anything (unless you want to).
                                    
                                    https://askubuntu.com/a/698068/112383
                                    1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:47:41 EDT Oneesan succubus

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                                       @clacke yes, it also has a simple mechanism to add boot options.
                                       1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:49:01 EDT clacke

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                                          @lain Cool, thanks for the help. I have some idea of all this now. I'll see how it all goes, hopefully tomorrow.
                     2. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-May-2018 11:33:26 EDT Oneesan succubus

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                        @clacke no, but I'm not using efi at all at the moment, so this from memory. It was really easy though, even though the refind documentation is a bit weird.