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  1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:28:00 EDT clacke clacke
    @zerohedge

    > Blockchain technology would ensure that everyone registered has exactly one vote, and that every vote is counted once.

    > No more lost ballots. No more tampering. No more miscounts and recounts. No more voter fraud.

    No more secrecy of vote.

    > Plus, blockchain voting can be cryptologically hashed to ensure secrecy, as well as provide an easy way for ANY candidate to be nominated.

    * insert handwaving argument here *

    > And compared to the cost of legions of human beings required to supervise and count votes, in addition to the logistical cost of printing and moving all that paper, a Blockchain vote is MUCH cheaper.

    There is one and only one way to do electronic voting that is relatively safe from manipulation. Free software voting machines that produce a paper trail.
    In conversation Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:28:00 EDT from social.heldscal.la permalink
    1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:33:25 EDT clacke clacke
      in reply to
      Original source: https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/nightstick-democracy-at-its-finest-22470/
      In conversation Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:33:25 EDT from social.heldscal.la permalink

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    2. Tomas SA2TMS (tomas@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:43:27 EDT Tomas SA2TMS Tomas SA2TMS
      in reply to
      Any kind of electronic voting machine will emit EM radiation that can be picked up at some distance and thus each vote at that station deduced

      You could use OCR to speed up the counting itself however
      In conversation Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:43:27 EDT from social.umeahackerspace.se permalink
    3. pettter ✅ (pettter@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:49:55 EDT pettter ✅ pettter ✅
      in reply to
      @clacke @zerohedge E-voting is a patently _bad idea_ that misses the point of voting and democracy in the first place.

      In short, voting and democracy are not tools of governance but of _legitimacy_. Governing and deciding things through voting is all well and good, and is what the legitimacy is intented to help with, but the _primary_ use is to make everyone (or near everyone) feel that the decisions and appointments made are legitimate.

      That means the voting system needs to be so obviously hard to fake that any attempt to delegitimize the results falls flat on it's face. That means, essentially, hand-counted paper ballots, where the ballots are mixed in transparent boxes, with complete (theoretical) oversight from _anyone_, and actual oversight from many opposing parties.

      Any e-voting system is, for all but a small subset of people, essentially a black box that does magic. That's easy to delegitimize _regardless_ of its theoretical or provable properties.
      In conversation Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 03:49:55 EDT from social.umeahackerspace.se permalink
      1. Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 05:28:29 EDT Rysiekúr Memesson Rysiekúr Memesson
        in reply to

        @pettter @clacke @zerohedge there was a great talk about e-voting in Estonia or Finland, can't remember exactly. Similar conlusions.

        In conversation Wednesday, 04-Oct-2017 05:28:29 EDT from mastodon.social permalink
    4. Mister M. T. Sack (thatbrickster@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2017 04:33:49 EDT Mister M. T. Sack Mister M. T. Sack
      in reply to
      @clacke @zerohedge One suggested use is for politician's expenses. Your thoughts?
      In conversation Saturday, 07-Oct-2017 04:33:49 EDT from shitposter.club permalink
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