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1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 11:34:37 EDT Strypey

   So, a couple of weeks in, and overall, I like #Mastodon a lot less than I liked #GNUSocial + #Qvitter. I like way the longer char limit lets me finish thoughts in a single post. But I find the multi-pane interface constantly distracting, and the peformance of the Ruby/Angular stack in draggy on my oldish PC.

   1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 11:36:51 EDT Strypey

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      I really miss the way #Qvitter stored any text I typed. I could start a post, see a question I could answer come up in my feed, go and type a reply, then come back to the post I was working on, without ever losing work. Even after a browser crash.

   2. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 11:57:45 EDT Strypey

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      I wonder if some of the stress, conflict, and drama in the Mastodon-verse has something to do with the way the constant context-switching forced on users by the multi-pane layout? In #Qvitter I could click on 'notifications' when I was in a good headspace to respond constructively. In vanilla #Mastodon there's no avoiding them, and they make a noise *shudder*

      1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:01:09 EDT Strypey

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         Whatever else I might be here to do, the latest notifications just sit there, looking at me. There's no way to navigate away from them or dismiss one that I find enraging. I feel obliged to respond, even though it might be better to wait, or the best response might be silence.

         1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:09:53 EDT Strypey

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            Anyone designing UI for Mastodon, or any #fediverse app, I highly recommend checking out #JoeEdelman 's talks about #TimeWellSpent, especially 'Is Anything Worth Maximizing'
            https://vimeo.com/252233546

      2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:06:47 EDT lnxw48a1

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         @strypey That's an interesting line of inquiry. I've always assumed the excessive quarelsomeness stemmed from the personalities of some of the people who came during the earliest waves of Twitter to Mastodon migration.
      3. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:11:19 EDT lnxw48a1

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         @strypey That's an interesting line of inquiry. I've always assumed the excessive quarrelsomeness stemmed from the personalities of some of the people who came during the earliest waves of Twitter to Mastodon migration.
         1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:21:44 EDT Strypey

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            @lnxw48a1 have you spend any time using vanilla #Mastodon? At first it was novel, but the more I use it, the more exhausted and overwhelmed I feel by having up to 3 firehoses in my mouth at once

            1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:49:15 EDT lnxw48a1

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               @strypey I have an account on the original instance. I dislike the multicolumn interface and the by-default hiding of conversations. Also the emphasis on notifications rather than replies.
               1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:57:27 EDT Strypey

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                  @lnxw48a1 ae, that's pretty much what I'm finding. I click on your post in one column, it appears in a column to the right, clicking reply starts a reply three columns to the left. People rave about the #Mastodon #UX. I have no idea why. The content warnings (which break when federating with anything other than Mastodon?)

         2. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 12:26:05 EDT Strypey

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            @lnxw48a1 do you mean the pre-Mastodon first wave, that all got "helped" down the back stairs of #Quitter to their own GS instances (then to postActiv and Pleroma)? Nah, some of them are toxic, but all of them get their whole instances blocked pretty fast by trigger-happy Masto-derators. To me, the Mastodon drama seems almost entirely self-generated.

            1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 13:13:54 EDT lnxw48a1

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               @strypey No, the people chased off qse are in large measure peaceable. The people I'm talking about are involved in almost every multi-day argument and have been since m.s. had its first big growth spurt. Quarrelsome, contentious, very angry.
               1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2018 13:26:07 EDT Strypey

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                  @lnxw48a1 to quote Francis Urquhart from #HouseOfCard (the Uk original not the increasingly weird US remake), "You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment" ;) I think it's probably some from ColumnA and ColumnB. Stressful, overwhelming #UX and in-your-face notifications are only going to amplify any existing tendency to be argumentative or explosive