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1. arunisaac (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jul-2018 07:03:24 EDT arunisaac
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF_fbTbHdyg
   1. solariiknight(ஆனந்த்) (solariiknight@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jul-2018 23:10:17 EDT solariiknight(ஆனந்த்)

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      Nice argument, but the video says that the effects of neonicotinoids on bees is still under debate. I thought that it was a settled claim that they do impact bees.
      1. arunisaac (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 10:23:39 EDT arunisaac

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         I always felt that SciShow was a little naive and overly establishment friendly. I like their science, but sometimes find their optimism unjustified. In particular about this episode on pesticides, maybe well designed and properly used pesticides (natural or artificial) are fine. But, I am unable to trust pesticide manufacturers to do the necessary research, and agro business to refrain from pesticide abuse.
         
         And, yes, there does seem to be good evidence that neonicotinoids adversely affect bees. Don't know if SciShow has just committed an innocent error, or if this is indicative of deeper bias.