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1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 12:53:18 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪

   i am so tired of hearing about voting! it's useless! it's privileged! it's what you've had conditioned into you since birth and a surefire way for me to ignore you on the grounds of not questioning the society you live in adequately enough! voting is not the only way and certainly not the most important avenue for political change!

   1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 13:02:10 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪

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      also like, the DSA is too soft and is basically a lighter take on the status quo. few of the members seem to fully question their societal structure, they just seem to cherrypick what they like and stop thinking about the rest?

      the reason we have FASCISM in a largely AUTHORITARIAN societal structure is obvious but we keep yelling about "democracy" and elections like we haven't literally done this for decades and only proved to uphold our current society

      1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 13:06:44 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪

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         like you may as well be yelling "make america democratic again" because all we're doing is further pushing the idea that voting works, the majority vote system is just, and if we put people in power that we personally like, then everything will be grand.

         nah, having people we like in government doesn't do anything to change how oppressive government rule is, nor why we're in this mess and always have been.

         this society has already been called democratic. nobody knows the meaning.

         1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 13:10:40 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪

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            if you can't see past your own societal conditioning nor see that something as obvious as AUTHORITY is one of the key problems in a society of OPPRESSIVE RULE and IMBALANCE of any kind then i really can't trust you to know how to make a better society.

            also as a footnote, if the DSA turned to revolution i'd still be wary because a lot of them are either tankies, or still believe in our current authoritarian government being "good if we fix it" (how did it break in the first place?)

            1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 13:13:50 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪

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               think about how voting works. majority vote. think about how the system basically elected exactly who the system wanted to be in power to protect and proliferate itself. voting DOES work, if you are the oppressive rulers trying to maintain control over society.

               majority vote = the oppressive majority retains control and marginalised/minority voices are stomped out.

               1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 13:22:53 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪

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                  the overton window will continue to shift, convincing more white people to vote for the system's mascot (trump), more laws will stoke the fires of voter oppression, more deportations and incarcerations and other racist shit that even happen to ACTUAL CITIZENS (not that citizenship ever sets anyone apart as being more or less worthy of living here) will disenfranchise the very voters that at least vote for the least bad option

                  so like, fuck voting? fuck all-powerful leaders?

                  1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jul-2018 13:27:58 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪

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                     just really really baffled that the same people yelling about how the system is broken and how voting doesn't work, are the same people that tell everyone the best course of action is to vote and offer few or no alternatives other than "vote for these candidates that are saying all the things you wanna hear!"

                     not, like, "here's some ideas on what we could do instead of electing dictators to authoritarian rule" or "here's some ways we can get rid of corrupt people outside of voting"