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1. Sam Schlinkert (schlink@octodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jul-2018 17:00:27 EDT Sam Schlinkert

   Today I was bummed to find out that the Purism Librem 5 phone likely won't be able to run apps like Wire or Signal -- the company calls them "walled gardens", adding "their server software is proprietary."

   For encrypted comms, they write, "Matrix is the proper solution and that is why we have partnered with them."

   https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

   1. Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅ (bob@soc.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 10:47:45 EDT Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅

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      @schlink I approve of Purism's decision there.
      
      Walled garden systems with a single centralized server run by some guy are something we should reject.
      1. Tagomago (tagomago@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 14:33:56 EDT Tagomago

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         @bob @schlink

         I think that's coherent all in all.

      2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 14:35:02 EDT lnxw48a1

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         @bob @bobjonkman While I'm still awaiting #Wire's promised federation, #Matrix is still problematic because of the way their E2EE works.
         
         Could there be a funding source that influenced #Purism's decision?
         1. Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅ (bob@soc.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 14:59:14 EDT Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅

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            @lnxw48a1 @bobjonkman afaik the Purism phone always planned to use Riot and be a Matrix phone. I don't know what the funding situation is with them but there was something recently about the French government using Matrix.
            
            https://matrix.org/blog/2018/04/26/matrix-and-riot-confirmed-as-the-basis-for-frances-secure-instant-messenger-app
   2. التنينوكس (dragnucs@social.touha.me)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 13:37:13 EDT التنينوكس

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      @schlink I believe their statement is valid and do endorse it.