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  1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:28:40 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪

    reading any star trek theories from trekkies is always a treat because they have no idea about the obvious canonical solutions/explanations they're missing while citing the most obscure references possible to back up their own far-fetched claims

    like how people talk about voyager letting loose way more photon torpedoes than they actually had, not realising that a ship with replicators could easily make more photon torpedoes if it ever stopped for supplies (they did. a lot.)

    In conversation Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:28:40 EDT from chitter.xyz permalink
    1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:35:22 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪
      in reply to

      the problem is that at the beginning of the show, they mentioned they had a limited supply because they didn't know if there were any non-hostile races with which they could trade, or planets to get resources from to refuel and fix their ship

      eventually they discovered that they could refule and such, and off camera decided there wasn't really any reason to hold back on the photon torpedoes

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      1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:40:44 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪
        in reply to

        now if you want to talk about the borg baby mysteriously disappearing then that's another story, but not even i care about that plothole other than a few seconds of "oh shit they just completely forgot about it didn't they" because it probably wouldn't have been a super interesting addition to the show anyway

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        1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:53:02 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪
          in reply to

          also the other star treks have a lot to complain about but i always seem to hear people picking on voyager, what gives? it was the second best star trek right behind ds9 and you can't tell me otherwise

          i have a feeling it has a lot to do with the whole atmosphere being way softer and friendlier and almost family-like whereas the atmosphere in other star treks is largely tense and stiff? ds9 had a very good familial vibe but it was overshadowed by everyone having "thick skin"

          In conversation Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:53:02 EDT from chitter.xyz permalink
          1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:55:28 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪
            in reply to

            voyager got the closest to being soft and friendly by having the crew be more open and vulnerable and digging deep into the idea of what it is to be flawed, to be human, the addition of a borg main character and a serial killer and all that other weird stuff just really posed some interesting and intimate questions

            we get to know the crew more personally, beyond just their stiff appearance as starfleet officers performing for everyone else

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            1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 15:57:29 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪
              in reply to

              to some extent we get this in ds9. but what we don't really see is characters opening up about themselves until it's far too late, and they never really seem to learn from it either way until the very end.

              characters will hide things from each other, go off on their own missions/do whatever they feel like without talking to anyone first, just blatantly disregard each other's deepest needs while keeping some sort of friendly yet thick skin overtop

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              1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 16:01:35 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪
                in reply to

                literally everyone in ds9 was trying to be some sort of gritty hardass while their personalities oozed with vulnerabilities and quirks that would've been so fun to explore. but we rarely saw them properly explore any of it beyond fleeting moments of tenderness that didn't seem to change much

                except somehow worf manages to be more alive and 3-dimensional than in tng

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                1. bailey//rockruff⚪ (ctrlaltdog@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jul-2018 16:05:18 EDT bailey//rockruff⚪ bailey//rockruff⚪
                  in reply to

                  even the relationship between jake and his dad seemed to be kinda tense? like, ben would often be pretty dismissive of what jake wanted and even sometimes quite controlling and mean, and expected jake to always be "strong" just like him.

                  it took half the show until we finally got episodes where jake started to be allowed to soften up and be more openly human

                  that could be a purposeful character flaw in ben sisko but...if it was, it never felt properly addressed

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