@rnitsch Besides the fact that you never interacted with @nipos or me around more than one posting. So you are more focussed the whole time at the administration. Have you recognized here, that most participants here are just watching us discussing because they don't want this kind of dialog on explicit this level? Studies are one thing, but talking with people reality something more. And I had discussions with more than only one side within the years now, learned therefore different views and learned about the fact of intolerance. So do you think turkish people are happy we are talking just ABOUT them, ABOUT some studies? Besides you're using the phrase "I'm not saying" very often. So what in fact do you want to say? If you really want to break through some vicious circle, then talk with people and ask questions. Don't come up with some studies you have read and which just shows up one side of the coin. There are even more than two sides. And living active some kind of an example, not some explicit role model which everybody should use. This is the base for a multicultural, colorful society we are in and that's the main goal preventing and helping to develop. That's also the point @freemo had pointed out. The whole third part of this debate is now just about you, your view and what you think you are saying. Perhaps asking others what they have understood so far? And yes: There will be also some harsh criticism coming up! That's the #Fediverse.