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1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 10:17:42 EST lnxw48a1
   One more advantage that #Wire has over #Signal: the devs have said they are working toward implementing #federation. If you think about it, you cannot rely upon any organization to remain non-evil in their intentions toward you. With federation, you and your contacts can disperse among various hosters or even #self-host, while still being able to stay in contact with one another.
   
   Good luck trying to stay in touch if you close your account on a non-federated #corpocentric chat and messaging service.
   1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 10:26:20 EST GeniusMusing

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      Is this the wire you are talking about?
      https://wire.com
      1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 10:27:30 EST lnxw48a1

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         @geniusmusing Yes.
         1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 10:33:58 EST GeniusMusing

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            Why not just host your own Nextcloud Talk, they are also using ActivityPub for federation between Nextcloud instances and are rumored to be working on a socnet plugin to connect to GNUS/Postactiv/Mos type federation so you can host your own.
            
            https://nextcloud.com/talk
            https://nextcloud.com/blog/activitypub-the-new-standard-for-decentralized-networks/
            1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 10:50:36 EST lnxw48a1

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               @geniusmusing #NextCloud is planned to be part of the next generation of FOS (family online services), but the whole thing will have to wait until I have *time and energy to set it up (unless I can persuade #sonOne or @amic to set up and run it).
               
               * time and energy — I was discussing (on #Wire) the greatly reduced energy and motivation that three years plus of travel and overtime has brought with #sonTwo and #Daddy_A and @amic earlier today.
      2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 10:33:03 EST lnxw48a1

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         @geniusmusing #Wire is currently not #federated (though the client and possibly the server are now FOSS), but it offers an easy noob-friendly encrypted chat. Out of the ones I’ve tried, this is the one that I’ve been able to get some of my family members to use. (Some of them also used #Ring, but there were some problems with a version upgrade forcing people to re-request connection to their contacts, and none of my contacts made it past that.)
   2. ⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️ (pnathan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2018 11:37:32 EST ⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️

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      @lnxw48a1 Signal's visible distrust of others and deep reliance on its own systems makes it a shockingly vulnerable system to correctly applied pressure. De minimise, it should have both federation and true Linux client support (not Chrome extension or w/e)... Oh well.