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1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Dec-2018 08:58:39 EST Strypey

   @z428 the question nobody promoting #XMPP apps seems to ask is, does it do anything users need? As I said, I've been using XMPP since it was still Jabber. I still install XMPP apps on my laptop from time to time, and I have Conversations on my mobile, it's a nice UI. But do I use them? Almost never.
   vibe@stevenroose@fosstodon.org @charlag @lightone

   1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Dec-2018 09:20:53 EST Strypey

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      Email gets more usage than XMPP because of webmail. Why is nobody Integrating XMPP into webmail clients like RoundCube or Rain Loops as GMail did? People have been trying and failing to develop web clients for XMPP for more than a decade. There are reasons the Matrix folks don't use XMPP, and again, it's not for lack of trying.

   2. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Dec-2018 09:23:51 EST Strypey

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      @z428 Email gets more usage than XMPP because of webmail. Why is nobody Integrating XMPP into webmail clients like RoundCube or Rain Loops as GMail did? People have been trying and failing to develop web clients for XMPP for more than a decade. There are reasons the Matrix folks don't use XMPP, and again, it's not for lack of trying.
      @stevenroose @charlag @lightone

      1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Dec-2018 09:29:43 EST Strypey

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         @z428 @stevenroose @charlag @lightone
         People expect more from chat apps than they did in the days of IM apps. They expect voice and video to work smoothly, they expect to be able to drop in photos, videos, and other files for effortless sharing. When i can reliably do these things with every XMPP user, regardless of what client they choose, with the same quality of UX as Wire does right now, then it might have a chance of taking off, and I look forward to that day.

   3. Adonay Felipe Nogueira (adfeno@ecodigital.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Dec-2018 04:08:18 EST Adonay Felipe Nogueira

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      @strypey Thanks to the grouping XEP mentioned in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0387.html , the server list on https://jmp.chat/suggested_servers.html, and the compliance testers (either referenced in the last link or superior ones), people at least know which service providers are complying with XEP-0387. #XMPP