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1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2017 07:20:15 EDT Bob Mottram
   Apart from the RiseUp thing, which is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned, there are other reasons to be concerned about Mozilla.
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAjqUss8C88
   
   And I agree that they shouldn't get involved in trying to battle "fake news" (which is itself a rather bogus concept based upon an immature understanding of the nature of news production) and instead just concentrate upon making a good browser which doesn't eat all the RAM on your system and doesn't exfiltrate a lot of user data to $SOMECOMPANY by default.
   1. yukiame🖕Quantum_Yuki (yukiame@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2017 08:21:55 EDT yukiame🖕Quantum_Yuki

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      @bob so do we still trust Mozilla or not?

      1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2017 08:25:42 EDT Bob Mottram

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         @yukiame It's open source, so the kinds of user monitoring antifeatures described can be removed. I expect they are in the Tor browser.
         
         The background is that Mozilla used to gain income from the default search being Google or Yahoo. My guess is that no longer applies and so the tracking stuff might be alternative revenue.
         1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2017 08:45:52 EDT Bob Mottram

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            @yukiame According to their last financial statement (2015):
            
            

            "Mozilla receives royalty income from contracts with various search engine and information providers. Revenue from these contracts is determined by the search and information providers based upon end user activity or as contractually agreed to. "
            
            

            https://static.mozilla.com/moco/en-US/pdf/2015MozillaAuditedFinancialStatement.pdf
            
            So it sounds like Google tells them to jump and Mozilla asks how high.