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1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 19:46:21 EST lnxw48a1
   Logged into #Ring / #Jami to add @davehunt and @bobjonkman and see if it has improved since my contacts abandoned it after an update forced contact re-requests.
   1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 16:47:47 EST David Hunt

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      @bobjonkman and I exchanged a few text messages; discovered that the client only presents notification on new messages when application does not have focus. We didn't try a phone call. Where are the menus that offer options like file xfer, conferences, and screen sharing?
      1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 17:20:55 EST lnxw48a1

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         @davehunt @bobjonkman I do not believe any of those exist yet. I did see that there is a presence indicator now. Previously, I had to send a message and see if it went through in order to know whether someone is present.
         1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 18:12:31 EST David Hunt

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            Glad to know that it isn'g just I who finds this ui to be rough around the edges.
            CC: @bobjonkman
            1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 18:19:21 EST mangeurdenuage

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               @lnxw48a1 @davehunt
               I have experienced ring/jamy for quite some time and I don't know what happened to them because in 2017, cross platform worked perfectly and suddenly mid 2017 it doesn't on work windows 7 anymore. There are some functions that disappear and comes back. I find it quite not usable for the normal user right now and it's distressing from my perspective since I'm trying to migrate my fam on it.
               1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 18:22:56 EST David Hunt

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                  CC: @bobjonkman @lnxw48a1
                  Can't migrate friends or fam to this yet. Many are skypers with iThings.
                  1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 18:25:00 EST mangeurdenuage

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                     I am fortunate that I a have no one in my family who posses an ithing.
                     1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 18:27:33 EST David Hunt

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                        WEll, that makes it easier to get them using as much #FLOS as possible.
                  2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 18:51:50 EST lnxw48a1

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                     @davehunt @bobjonkman @mangeurdenuage
                     
                     I made the mistake of trying to get a group of family members to migrate to #Ring / #Jami about 18 months ago. At the time, there was no presence indicator, so it was "send message, hope the other party is there to receive it; oops, message is hung up trying to send, I guess they aren't online right now".
                     
                     Then came an update that meant needing to re-request connection with all my contacts, and that was it. A single contact confirmed connection, but I never again successfully sent or received a message*, and they all stopped using it.
                     
                     * I believe I successfully sent one message to BobJonkman a day or two ago, but he was away, so no answer was received.
                     1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jan-2019 19:32:15 EST Bob Jonkman

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                        Yup, I got an invite to add you to my #Jami addressbook (and did so). Sent you a reply -- I see a green dot on your avatar, which I think means you're online. But you're probably AFK, just like I was for most of the day.