@thinkMoult @jalcine As a former old time webdev, I agree. There are reasons to use JS and other toolkits for special purposes. But unless your site is the new Homestar Runner -- like a site about interactive video and games, there's really no reason to use HTML/CSS and minimal JS if you actually need it at all. Why is a Webpage loading JS from a dozen different sites just so I can read some article or order some pants? This makes no sense.