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1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 14:21:17 EST lnxw48a1
   Until @amic mentioned the name, I had never heard of Doug McMillon ( #Walmart CEO ). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_McMillon
   
   It may be surprising, but most people in real life know that CEOs don't matter much, either in helping $COMPANY make more money, or in matters of people's daily lives. (Only corporate boards of directors seem not to have figured this out. It isn't just government agencies where HQ has head-in-rump syndrome.)
   1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 15:25:07 EST musicman

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      I disagree. !Nagios could be a much larger company without Ethan. He's too conservative (in multiple senses of the word) and holds the company back.
      
      The culture changed at !perforce when we changed CEOs. Now, could that just be due to the extreme growth (4x in 10 months under CEO)? Possibly.
      
      Judy set the tone at Epic, and her disconnection with reality kept me from staying there.
      
      blocSonic wouldn't exist without Mike and without his leadership to bring me, Chris, Shawn, and C-Doc on board, he'd never have been able to put out the type of internationally-recognized vinyl that we are putting out on Record Store Day.
      
      Now, Wal-mart is much larger than any of those organizations, and none of them is retail, but I would say Microsoft was different under Gates, Ballmer, and post-Balmer.
      1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 15:26:35 EST musicman

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         of course, in the case of Ethan, Judy, and Mike, those are all founders. That leaves us with Perforce and MSFT, but I still think it's pretty solid.
         1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 15:43:32 EST lnxw48a1

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            @musicman Well, founders _are_ different than other CEOs. For one thing, founders have to be grounded in reality or the organization collapses sooner rather than later.
            1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 15:49:55 EST musicman

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               the thing about Judy was she tried to run a 5000-person company like a 500-person company. I am informed they solved a lot of those issues after I left.
               1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 16:38:14 EST lnxw48a1

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                  @musicman They also benefited from their main competitor’s “I want to see the parking lot filled from 9 to 5”.
                  1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 16:47:43 EST musicman

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                     who is they in this case, MSFT?
                     1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 17:01:30 EST lnxw48a1

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                        @musicman #Epic. When I was looking at #Cerner openings, the employee ratings were “stay as far away as possible” and one oft-mentioned reason was a story about the boss throwing a tantrum about people not being in the office during times when he expected it.
                        
                        I understood it to mean he didn’t understand that not physically being in the office does not mean someone isn’t doing the work that their job requires during that time. (As I write, I am finishing a case that requires equipment replacement, despite being in an unpaid status since 2019-02-23.)
                        1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2019 17:28:14 EST musicman

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                           people at Epic traveled so much Judy would have been throwing tantrums constantly, lol.