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  1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2019 03:49:28 EDT Strypey Strypey

    @RandomDamage FWIW
    > 1. You can always choose to violate a law.

    That's one reason a law is not is not the same as a program.

    > 2. The "State" doesn't have a monopoly on force (not even close).

    A "state" has a monopoly on the *legitimate* use of force within a defined territory. This is the accepted definition in political science, from the hard right (IR "realists") to the hard left (anarchists).

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    1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2019 03:51:48 EDT Strypey Strypey
      in reply to

      @RandomDamage
      BTW a "state" is not the same thing as a "government", "nation", or "country". Something can be a government (eg corporations) or a nation (eg indigenous peoples) without being a state. A country is a geographical area, that may or may not be governed, or have a state. Using the term "state" interchangeably with one of these other things tends to cause a lot of confusion in political discussions.

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