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1. Christmas Personified as a Catgirl (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:03:28 EDT Christmas Personified as a Catgirl
   Human nature is both competitive and cooperative.
   1. bitey cat bite bite bite bite (cybermeow@cybre.space)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:06:34 EDT bitey cat bite bite bite bite

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      @moonman both are in human nature, but I dont think in equal amounts. The advance of our technology and the increase of our living standards has usually come from a cooperative effort, as we become more connected our ability to feel empathy applies to more and more people and the evolution of our society has gone from tribes to villages to feudal kingdoms to empires and on to the space age.

      1. bitey cat bite bite bite bite (cybermeow@cybre.space)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:07:40 EDT bitey cat bite bite bite bite

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         @moonman in my opinion the logical next step is the unification of the working class and the consolidation of economic classes into one as wealth is spread and allocated based on need and potential.

         1. Christmas Personified as a Catgirl (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:12:36 EDT Christmas Personified as a Catgirl

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            @cybermeow in my experience when you try to get people to extend empathy past their monkeysphere, it ends up substituting for empathy for neighbors. Not sure how to overcome this but I have felt this is the reason that uncensorable p2p communicaton tools are needed. Corporate social networks don't operate in our interests, federated like gs/mastodon end up siloing.
            1. bitey cat bite bite bite bite (cybermeow@cybre.space)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:13:43 EDT bitey cat bite bite bite bite

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               @moonman well nothing happens instantly but I think we will grow into it

               1. Christmas Personified as a Catgirl (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:15:00 EDT Christmas Personified as a Catgirl

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                  @cybermeow yeah I think where plans for this have failed in the past, better communication tools, even the ones we have now, will help a lot. But it needs to be possible to organize over these tools and right now the tools are hostile to that.
                  1. bitey cat bite bite bite bite (cybermeow@cybre.space)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:16:11 EDT bitey cat bite bite bite bite

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                     @moonman yeah humans dont evolve at an instant rate, itl take time and probably cultural relevance before people come to be comfortable with a 100% connected fully p2p model of communication

                     1. Christmas Personified as a Catgirl (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:19:49 EDT Christmas Personified as a Catgirl

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                        @cybermeow I agree.
                  2. YSJIZ5YOYOTHJPD= (roka@gs.smuglo.li)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:16:09 EDT YSJIZ5YOYOTHJPD=

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                     @moonman @cybermeow tools are not hostile, their operators are
                     1. Christmas Personified as a Catgirl (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:21:51 EDT Christmas Personified as a Catgirl

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                        @roka Mainly I mean the tools aren't really built for it right now, but I also mean Facebook/Twitter overlords have control over what you're allowed to organize for.
            2. Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci) (jeffcliff@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:14:13 EDT Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci)

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               @moonman @cybermeow 'not sure how to overcome this' ripple/villages is a good fist step. Finding cycles of goodwill beyond our filter bubble
               1. Christmas Personified as a Catgirl (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:16:05 EDT Christmas Personified as a Catgirl

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                  @jeffcliff @cybermeow can you link me to something about this?
                  1. Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci) (jeffcliff@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:21:16 EDT Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci)

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                     @moonman @cybermeow http://qttr.at/1xvm http://qttr.at/1xvk (caution: reddit/censorship:) http://qttr.at/1xvl
                     1. Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci) (jeffcliff@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:23:52 EDT Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci)

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                        @moonman @cybermeow http://qttr.at/1xvn
                        1. Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci) (jeffcliff@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:24:34 EDT Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci)

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                           @moonman @cybermeow https://twitter.com/rfugger/status/796055502828412928
               2. Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci) (jeffcliff@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:34:00 EDT Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci)

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                  @moonman @cybermeow also http://qttr.at/1jjs just sayin
   2. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:38:19 EDT clacke

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      @moonman Re: https://mastodon.starrevolution.org/users/Laurelai/updates/13755 ?
      1. Christmas Personified as a Catgirl (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:46:57 EDT Christmas Personified as a Catgirl

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         @clacke yeah
         1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:54:20 EDT lnxw48a1

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            @moonman @clacke The creator of that graphic appears not to have met any 2-3 year olds.
            1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2017 10:58:42 EDT lnxw48a1

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               @moonman @clacke Tangent, but still sort of relevant: https://evonomics.com/people-dont-actually-want-equality-want-fairness/
   3. Arnold Judas Rimmer (ajr@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:13:37 EDT Arnold Judas Rimmer

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      @moonman  this is the law of the jungle as old and as true as the sky,
      the wolf that shall keep it will prosper, the wolf that shall break it will die,
      as the creeper that girdles the tree trunk the law runneth forward and back,
      the strength of the pact is the wolf, the strength of the wolf is the pact.