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1. Don Romano (alt) (thor@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2019 13:24:27 EDT Don Romano (alt)

   @wistahe First thoughts I get after reading that:

   1. This reminds me of another set of quadrants:

   1. Don Romano (alt) (thor@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2019 13:25:45 EDT Don Romano (alt)

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      @wistahe Basically, functions are synchronous single return, generators are synchronous multiple return, promises are asynchronous single return and observables are asynchronous multiple return.

      1. Don Romano (alt) (thor@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2019 13:26:42 EDT Don Romano (alt)

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         @wistahe 2. When we write tests, we are essentially describing our goals. It's just that without a 4th quadrant language, we are also forced to describe how to get there.

         1. Don Romano (alt) (thor@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2019 13:30:45 EDT Don Romano (alt)

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            @wistahe I hadn't thought of it in terms of quadrants before, but the idea of giving a computer a goal and skipping the "how" has been on my mind before.

            What surprises me is that only this 4th quadrant would require an AI but the 3 others don't. We have "execute mechanism" languages like C and "evaluate consequent" languages like SQL, yet somehow, "execute consequent" requires an AI.

            1. Don Romano (alt) (thor@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2019 13:32:57 EDT Don Romano (alt)

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               @wistahe Another thing that occurs to me about this is my constant bother with the fact that crossing the boundary between SQL databases and programs is so clumsy and unnatural. They tried to "fix" that problem with NoSQL databases, but that turned out to be a bad idea. What interests me is that this lies at the exact intersection that the missing 4th quadrant does.

               1. Don Romano (alt) (thor@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2019 13:37:16 EDT Don Romano (alt)

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                  @wistahe Perhaps the this discomfort stems from the very fact that it straddles the 4th quadrant. Integration between systems is what most software actually does.

                  1. Don Romano (alt) (thor@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2019 13:44:40 EDT Don Romano (alt)

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                     @wistahe If you could state your goal in terms of what a constellation of systems should accomplish, what's left for the compiler to do is figure out the glue code.