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  1. allan (allan@mastodon.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2019 22:45:44 EDT allan allan

    Weird fact that I learned today: The town of Banff is made up of at least 4 other towns that used to exist in the park.

    Banff didn't expand and take them over. Those towns were ordered destroyed and the houses and businesses were picked up from their original locations and moved to Banff.

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    1. allan (allan@mastodon.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2019 22:52:44 EDT allan allan
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      Why were these towns ordered destroyed (and by what super villain exactly?)? Turns out mining was allowed in (what is now) Banff *after* it was made a national park in 1885 and before the 1930 National Park Act.

      Mines were opened, mining towns built, and all was good until the 1920s or so when people got a little ehh on mining in the park. So once a mining town fell on hard times the feds stepped in and ordered it destroyed. But the buildings were still good hence being all moved to Banff.

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      1. allan (allan@mastodon.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2019 22:55:21 EDT allan allan
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        The town of Bankhead, for example, only existed for 20 years before being carted away. It was a full on town with a school, library, and a power plant (they had electricity before Banff and actually most people in Alberta!) but after a strike in the 1920s the mine closed and the Minister responsible for the park ordered the town removed.

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        1. allan (allan@mastodon.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2019 22:57:21 EDT allan allan
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          I am reading a book on the history of coal mining in Alberta because I am hip and cool and definitely not a boring person with boring interests.

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          1. allan (allan@mastodon.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2019 23:10:24 EDT allan allan
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            On a certain level coal in Alberta is a cautionary tale. Coal mining of some description was done essentially everywhere in Alberta, and the province is full of those ghost towns. Within a single persons working life towns were founded, populated, and reduced to scattered foundations and dusty paths that used to be main street.

            Now we're an oil and gas province and that seems so permanent. But then again so did coal, and the coal is still there under our feet, we just don't mine it any more.

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            1. allan (allan@mastodon.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2019 23:16:08 EDT allan allan
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              In Edmonton quite literally, there used to be coal mines running under downtown, to the consternation of anyone digging foundations or lrt tunnels today.

              For more history of mineral exploitation in Edmonton try ep 34 of Let's Find Out and listen to Edmonton's former historian laureate take me on a journey in which I discover that the real mineral wealth left by retreating glaciers were the friends we found along the way https://letsfindoutpodcast.com/2019/05/29/episode-34-the-dredge-report/

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              1. Episode 34: The Dredge Report
                By Chris Chang-Yen Phillips from Let's Find Out

                Allan Farrell asks what’s up with a picture of a gold dredge he saw on a plaque downtown, and where the gold in the North Saskatchewan River comes from.

                If you grew up in Edmonton, maybe you went through a confusing childhood learning process that went something like this:
                1) Going to Klondike Days, and associating Edmonton with a gold rush
                2) Getting older and learning that the Klondike was somewhere else, and concluding that Edmonton was just a gateway, with no gold industry of its own
                3) Realizing no, there was in fact both gold panning and gold dredging in Edmonton, beginning in at least the 1800s.

                Allan did not grow up in Edmonton. He first learned about gold dredging in the river when he read an interpretive panel downtown, which has since been removed.

                To Allan’s left, you can see the conrete plinth where the plaque/panel used to be.

                We went to the City of Edmonton Archives, where City Archivist Kathryn Ivany helped us identify the picture of a gold dredge he saw. This is the photo Allan picked out of the lineup:

                Gold Dredge on the River at Edmonton, 1898 [City of Edmonton Archives, EA-10-1361]

                Here’s another example of the gold dredges in Edmonton around the end of the 19th century.

                City of Edmonton Archives, EA-122-12

                If you don’t want to be too spoiled about what we learned, listen to the episode before scrolling further.

                This is the Google Street View blurry cached photo of the actual interpretive panel from 2017.

                We met Jody Dahrouge, of Dahrouge Geological Consulting, to learn more about where the gold in the river comes from.

                Jody Dahrouge and Allan in front of the wall of rocks at Dahrouge Geological Consulting

                Jody let us hold his meterorite.

                This is what it looks like to hold a 4.5 billion year-old hunk of space rock.

                After all that learning, we really built up quite an apatite.

                Further Reading:

                • Riverdale: From Fraser Flats to Edmonton Oasis by Allan Shute and Margaret Fortier
                • “The Lure of Gold in Alberta’s History: Part I”, written by Michael Donnelly for the RETROactive blog
                • “The Lure of Gold in Alberta’s History: Part II”, written by Michael Donnelly for the RETROactive blog
                • “Edmonton’s River Valley: The Glitter of the Gold Rush”, written by Pauline Bodebin for the RETROactive blog
                • Donnelly, Michael. Gold Mining at Edmonton. Alberta History.  Spring 2017, Vol. 65 No. 2.

                This episode is made possible by support from Taproot Edmonton and the Edmonton Historical Board.

                We also gave shout-outs in the episode to the Edmonton Public Library summer reading club and The Well- Endowed Podcast.

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