This interview vindicates everything that the #psychedelic subcultures have been saying since our plant medicines were criminalized in the 1960s. These substances are non-toxic, non-addictive (and even addiction interrupting), and can be extremely beneficial. As long people get the substance they're expecting (quality control) and they're allowed to take it in an organized, ritual or therapeutic setting, supervized by elders with some experience in guiding users away from a "bad trip" and so on.