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1. Steven Roose (stevenroose@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2019 11:03:40 EDT Steven Roose

   @z428 @hinterwaeldler
   That's not really true. #WhatsApp is by far the most popular messenger app. It ran on an #XMPP server for most of its existence. XMPP has a standards body and a protocol for proposing standard extensions. So WhatsApp should have proposed extensions for all the features they found were missing from the protocol. They should have enabled federation while other providers catched up on implementing the new protocol extensions.
   Instead, they decided to build a #silo.

   1. Yet Another AP Server (yaaps@banana.dog)'s status on Friday, 16-Aug-2019 15:36:43 EDT Yet Another AP Server

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      @stevenroose @z428 @hinterwaeldler
      Also, WhatsApp isn't the first time that a big 5 tech company took a huge userbase built on XMPP and gave the community the finger

      Among the things that ActivityPub can do is provide discovery mechanisms for communicating about capabilities and bootstrapping key exchanges. I've seen indications that's something the Pleroma devs would like to do with XMPP