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  1. Joyeuse Noëlle! (noelle@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:20:26 EDT Joyeuse Noëlle! Joyeuse Noëlle!

    Hey progressives: just in case you think for even a fraction of a heartbeat that Julian #Assange is on your side: https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/921812543441657856 https://mastodon.social/media/rEdaU-LB3RkEtCjM_eQ

    In conversation Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:20:26 EDT from mastodon.social permalink
    1. kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:27:11 EDT kaniini kaniini
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      @noelle

      large, unjustified support of Assange and wikileaks despite it essentially being used as a platform for trolling, in combination with constant denial of his flaws which were very much known to us at indymedia, is one of the main reasons why i gave up on that project.

      it should be noted that Assange is the reason that Chelsea Manning got thrown in prison to begin with, because he isn't a real journalist and he hasn't the slightest clue about how to protect his sources.

      In conversation Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:27:11 EDT from mastodon.dereferenced.org permalink
      1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:36:13 EDT Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
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        @kaniini @noelle At this point I think Wikileaks is a spent force, but as I recall I don't think they fucked up with any sources, whereas that can't be said for The Intercept (Reality Winner).

        afaik Chelsea Manning was originally caught due to being ratted on by a Wired journalist in an IRC chat.
        In conversation Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:36:13 EDT from social.freedombone.net permalink
        1. kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:57:42 EDT kaniini kaniini
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          @bob @noelle

          it is more complicated than that. Assange basically validated that the person in the IRC log was the same person he was talking to.

          In conversation Monday, 23-Oct-2017 14:57:42 EDT from mastodon.dereferenced.org permalink
    2. Tomas SA2TMS (tomas@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2017 15:39:52 EDT Tomas SA2TMS Tomas SA2TMS
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      What the hell. I mean, I knew Assange was an ass but this is a new level
      In conversation Monday, 23-Oct-2017 15:39:52 EDT from social.umeahackerspace.se permalink
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