@ferretsyndicate This depends on whether the person you're talking to lives in a social democratic country or not. Certainly in Sweden complaining about them is common in the left, but also almost everyone I talk to would be fine with the social democrats if they went back to reforming the system instead of the neoliberalism they've engaged in since Olof Palme died. And everyone agrees things are better than the capitalist hellhole that is the US.