@funny Anyone who pulls an elaborate proposal (of marriage or otherwise) and isn't already certain the answer will be "yes" and that the woman they're asking will be comfortable with the amount of public attention she'll receive in that moment is either a narcissist or a misogynist (or both). To pull that move without actually knowing what the answer will be (e.g., you've never discussed it beforehand) requires a special kind of willful ignorance and utter disregard for the person you "love."