@cypnk Agreed. I've stayed at cabins that use a loft space and climbing a ladder to go to sleep is always a pain (and dangerous, since it's often the guest space and the reason those guests are spending the night often involves them being too intoxicated to drive home). If I have my kid with me, it's always a worry that they'll fall down the ladder, which is almost always at a very steep, near 90-degree angle.