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1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2017 19:02:45 EDT Danyl Strype
   "A century ago scarcity had to be endured; today, it has to be enforced" - Murrary Bookchin.
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   1. huwyte lash (slrock@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2017 22:37:00 EDT huwyte lash

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      @strypey It can't be easy selling apples on some orchard man's property.

      1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2017 03:10:26 EDT Danyl Strype

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         @slrock it can't be easy selling patterns of bits on a machine optimized for making effectively infinite copies of them ;)
   2. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2017 06:19:40 EDT clacke

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      @strypey Post-scarcity has not been shown to be a thing, and the notion that we would already be there today is not even up for debate.
      1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2017 02:12:23 EDT Danyl Strype

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         @clacke um ... this thing you're using now, it can produce effectively infinite copies of any digitised information. Is that allowed?
         1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2017 02:13:16 EDT Danyl Strype

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            @clacke cities could be self-sufficient in fruit if you needed a permit to cut down a fruit tree in the city rather than to plant one.
            1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2017 02:14:15 EDT Danyl Strype

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               @clacke the idea that scarcity is enforced by capitalism in a myriad of ways is self-evident now, but it was never a stretch
         2. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2017 03:39:42 EDT clacke

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            @strypey The digital realm is the one place where scarcity is decidedly artificial, and there I agree with you.
            
            DRM has no reason to exist without capitalism, and is also useless without a corporate welfare state backing it.