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  1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 04-Oct-2020 20:33:27 EDT lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
    Okay look. *I* don't use #Signal ( and same for #Telegram ), because I don't want to give my telephone number to anyone except family and close friends. I have enough personal contacts that do use them so that they'd be personally useful if I didn't have that unbreakable obstacle.

    But I don't object to others choosing such end-to-end encrypted messengers over messaging apps such as (for example) #Facebook_Messenger.

    I personally use #Wire, #XMPP, #Matrix, and #WickrMe. (I tried #Jami, but it wasn't very usable yet; none of my contacts were willing to try #Tox or #Briar.) I've even considered getting a Google account again so I can use whatever their latest incarnation of messaging is (just because almost everyone I know has a Google account).

    It does bother me that Signal and Telegram and most other messaging services are centralized and non-federated.

    It seems we haven't learned from the 1990s & early 2000s when some friends had AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), some had MSN Messenger, some had Yahoo Messenger, some had ICQ, and a few had various other walled garden messengers (such as Excite's messenger). If I wanted to talk with all my friends, I needed to have accounts on every possible service. I should be able to communicate with my friends from whatever service I choose to use to whatever services they choose to use and not have to create accounts on every possible service.

    But that's a matter of educating our friends and family, not of dogmatically refusing to communicate with them on any service they might use.
    In conversation Sunday, 04-Oct-2020 20:33:27 EDT from nu.federati.net permalink
    1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Oct-2020 16:35:37 EDT musicman musicman
      in reply to
      "It seems we haven't learned", 2020 in Murica summed up.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Oct-2020 16:35:37 EDT from nu.federati.net permalink
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