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1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Nov-2020 19:06:16 EST mangeurdenuage
   Normies are extremely hard to convince. Even people with high cognitive abilities are. You can just warn them and say I told you so when it happens.
   And even when that happens, because it already happens, actually it happened again three days ago when my father got his post censored for a third time. He continues to use it without seeking a freaking solution.
   
   And it happened the next day when a URL that he "saved" on his mobile phone disappeared by "magic".
   I don't know what it gets to get normies to move, but I believe that they need to get Google/facebook/MS Storms Troopers stomping their face on the floor to realize what's happening.
   
   One of the few reasons I can convince people to migrate to free software is when they see it as less of an inconvenience than proprietary software, and that them and I will waist less money on working with that.
   1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 19-Nov-2020 19:42:11 EST lnxw48a1

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      > Normies are extremely hard to convince.
      
      They're only hard to convince if your reasons make sense.
      
      Believe me, "you can see your grandkids" is a very powerful attractant, second only to "all your contacts are already using it".
      
      The thing is, the all your contacts ... argument is exactly the one your parents tried to stop you from using when you were a teen: If Jimmy and your other friends all jumped off a bridge, would you follow?
      1. 6gain (6gain@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 20-Nov-2020 03:00:40 EST 6gain

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         I've started skipping over the privacy/government access/philosophical line, and going straight to 'it just seems stupid that Facebook etc make all that money from people and communities living their lives.' I think people are more uncomfortable with the idea of billionaires profiting from other people's altruism. It'll still take a few days and repetitions for it to sink in, of course...