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  1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 08-Jan-2021 20:24:53 EST lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
    I'm hearing that #Google and #Apple are removing the apps for the #Parler #socnet from the #Android PlayStore and the #iOS AppStore.

    I'd argue that given their duopoly on mobile operating systems, the power to arbitrarily kick someone out is scary (regardless of how deserving Parler might be; I'm not even sure I've seen a screenshot of the site). I'd argue that this is evidence that the mobile OS and app store groups of both companies need to be split up, so that competition can come ... including strong competition for mobile app stores on each platform.

    Again, Parler may deserve it, especially if their users used the socnet to organize their insurrection attempt. (Though I suspect many of them probably used odious #corpocentric sites like #Twitter or #Facebook, which are not being punished.)
    In conversation Friday, 08-Jan-2021 20:24:53 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
    1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 08-Jan-2021 21:29:10 EST GeniusMusing GeniusMusing
      in reply to
      Related: Not Easy, Not Unreasonable, Not Censorship: The Decision To Ban Trump From Twitter Techdirt
      https://nu.federati.net/url/279248
      In conversation Friday, 08-Jan-2021 21:29:10 EST from nu.federati.net permalink

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      1. Not Easy, Not Unreasonable, Not Censorship: The Decision To Ban Trump From Twitter
        from Techdirt.
        When I started writing this post, it was about Facebook's decision to suspend Trump's account indefinitely, and at least until Joe Biden is inaugurated in a couple weeks. I had lots to say on that... and then Friday afternoon, Twitter...
      1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 08-Jan-2021 22:50:30 EST lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
        in reply to
        This has been a long time coming.
        In conversation Friday, 08-Jan-2021 22:50:30 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
        1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 09-Jan-2021 19:11:19 EST GeniusMusing GeniusMusing
          in reply to
          Also Related: Just Like Every Other Platform, Parler Will Take Down Content And Face Impossible Content Moderation Choices Techdirt
          https://nu.federati.net/url/279257
          In conversation Saturday, 09-Jan-2021 19:11:19 EST from nu.federati.net permalink

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          1. Just Like Every Other Platform, Parler Will Take Down Content And Face Impossible Content Moderation Choices
            from Techdirt.
            Like Gab before it, the hot new Twitter-wannabe service for assholes and trolls kicked off of Twitter is Parler. The President and a bunch of his supporters have hyped it up, and the latest is that Senator Ted Cruz (and Rep. Devin Nunes) have recently...
          1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 09-Jan-2021 21:42:22 EST GeniusMusing GeniusMusing
            in reply to
            Moar developments...

            Amazon Suspended Parler From Its Web Hosting
            https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-parler-aws

            Apple suspends Parler from App Store US Capitol breach | The Guardian
            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/10/apple-suspends-parler-from-app-store
            In conversation Saturday, 09-Jan-2021 21:42:22 EST from nu.federati.net permalink

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            1. Amazon Is Booting Parler Off Of Its Web Hosting Service
              from BuzzFeed News
              Amazon's suspension of Parler's account means that unless it can find another host, once the ban takes effect on Sunday Parler will go offline.
            2. Apple suspends Parler from App Store
              from the Guardian
              The app has been suspended until it takes measures to prevent posts that incite violence from spreading
          2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 10-Jan-2021 12:53:17 EST lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
            in reply to
            @geniusmusing They’re right. No matter how much someone may prefer free speech, others who host it will have to impose limits.

            I saw someone recently complaining about a proposal to filter (default: on) search results for rooms on a chat platform and I thought:
            1. There are legal restrictions for online content. As a platform expands into other nations, they gain more restrictions.
            2. If extremist and offensive results are not hidden by default, normal users leave, rendering the platform useless except as a forum for the most extreme and anti-social people.

            If #Parler is supposed to be completely unfiltered and unmoderated, they’ll find that the number of countries where they can safely operate is small.

            Again, I’ve never seen the site, so I don’t know whether the content is potentially illegal or just differs politically from what the mobile appstores like. If this is mostly just a political purge, the people rejoicing should be defending them—the axe tends to swing against former allies with the same effect it wielded when swung against opponents—but I don’t think most people look at the long term implications of these things.
            In conversation Sunday, 10-Jan-2021 12:53:17 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
            1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 10-Jan-2021 13:00:38 EST GeniusMusing GeniusMusing
              in reply to
              @lnxw48a1
              Interesting thread on the aws hosting. Or no longer hosting.

              Corey Quinn on Twitter: "So there's a lot of confusion about what Parler being kicked off of Amazon Web Services awscloud means. Let me do a quick thread to explain it to folks who aren't deep in the technical weeds..." / Twitter
              https://twitter.com/QuinnyPig/status/1348116976019771392

              TLDR: "Their only basis for removing sites has historically been "breaking the law."
              In conversation Sunday, 10-Jan-2021 13:00:38 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
    2. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Jan-2021 18:04:14 EST musicman musicman
      in reply to
      meh, is Parler on fdroid?
      In conversation Monday, 11-Jan-2021 18:04:14 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
      1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Jan-2021 18:07:36 EST lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
        in reply to
        @musicman Not as far as I am aware, but even though I heard of Parler a few months ago, I have heard (and written) the name more in the past few days than in the rest of my lifetime combined, so I’ve never looked for it.
        In conversation Monday, 11-Jan-2021 18:07:36 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
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