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1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 30-Apr-2021 21:15:48 EDT lnxw48a1
   Now that I have an ending date for this assignment, I'm inclined to wait until I get back to ::1 before I back up and reinstall my main laptop. (Moving from #Kubuntu to #Devuan)
   1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 30-Apr-2021 21:46:05 EDT GeniusMusing

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      Going to try #Devuan tomorrow, the upgrade to #Fedora 34 has caused many minor issues, not really surprising as it has been upgraded many times since 28 I think. If all else fails it will be a clean Fedora 34 install.
      1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 13:55:24 EDT GeniusMusing

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         Welp... #Devuan is on and going off to try CentOS Stream. While I did all the reading ahead and it found the prop WiFi drivers and connected it decided to leave the CD/DVD repo in place so I got errors when looking for updates, manually rem'd out the repo but it still didn't finish looking for updates until I closed Discover. Also couldn't add my user to sudo (even though user is admin) and had other permissions related issues and quite a few "file/command not found" while trying to fix.
         
         If I really wanted all these headaches I would install Arch.
         1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 18:05:26 EDT lnxw48a1

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            @geniusmusing I don’t bother with Discover. I install Synaptic and use that instead.
            
            Leaving the install media’s repo is annoying. Not being able to add your user to sudo is a bad thing. I think I would change distros also.
            1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 18:23:56 EDT GeniusMusing

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               @lnxw48a1
               Synaptic would only work for me if I go back to a Debian based system. Also, CentOS is going away, PITA to install KDE and still not working correctly. Maybe I will try Kubuntu before I go further.
               1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 18:31:15 EDT GeniusMusing

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                  @lnxw48a1
                  One other thing that is really starting to annoy me with Fedora34/CentOS Stream 8 is post update install, "Restart is required" everytime and it takes two reboots to update, the first does the update and the second lets you back in.
                  
                  Even Windoze usually handles it in one reboot.
               2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 18:31:03 EDT lnxw48a1

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                  @geniusmusing I do wish someone in RPM land had a distro with systemd.
                  1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 18:31:23 EDT lnxw48a1

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                     *without*
                     1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 18:47:47 EDT GeniusMusing

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                        @lnxw48a1
                        Just had a "Windoze" type update cycle in Fedora.
                        System updates, reboot, reboot, another update, reboot, reboot.
                        
                        I'm done with Fedora/CentOS/RHEL.
                        
                        Not sure where I will land as I am not a real fan of Ubuntu/Canonical and Debian is way to slow with updates and behind current versions (but I do really like Debian for servers!), even Linux Mint seems to be lacking KDE desktops, not sure for how long but the oldest listed version on the site has no KDE.
                        
                        Time to start researching...
                  2. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-May-2021 19:16:40 EDT GeniusMusing

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                     @lnxw48a1
                     >I do wish someone in RPM land had a distro without systemd.
                     
                     There is one on Distrowatch...
                     https://nu.federati.net/url/280936
                     
                     and I have used it in the past and might just give it a spin... again.
                     
                     So cool ice cubes are jealous » PCLinuxOS
                     https://www.pclinuxos.com/